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AloeVera

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205. Lol!!

Sat Dec 28, 2024, 10:08 PM

Dec 2024

You seriously want to use SYRIA to prove Israel is not so bad?

And where on earth are you getting your numbers from? 3 million killed?? Is that what Nutty is saying now? Trump?

In 10-12 YEARS of conflict, up to 160,000 civilians were killed. Figures from credible sources, not right-wing nuts. Representing about 1.5% of the pre-war population. In 10-12 years, mind you, not ONE as in Gaza

Why are Palestinian deaths and the enormity of their suffering minimized, pooh-pooh-ed, discounted??

Reasons...

No comment about Ukraine?

On edit:
Estimates of civilian deaths in Syria range from 143k to 307k ( with about $164k derived using statistical techniques, lacking documentation)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35806229.amp

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I am sick of the slaughter in Gaza [View all] malaise Dec 2024 OP

The Palestinian terrorists releasing all of the hostages would likely go a long way to achieving this Jose Garcia Dec 2024 #1

Obviously, Bebe doesn't care about the hostages womanofthehills Dec 2024 #7

How did the need to get them back materialize? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #64

But when you look at the news and the genocide do you recall? arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #72

Social and for-profit news media knows jack shit about genocide, Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #77

So who/where is your source of information? arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #81

It depends on what my purpose is. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #95

And, after that, I still wait a few days, sometimes the "real" information takes awhile to come out. nt yagotme Dec 2024 #226

I've given up. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #2

I've given up too. Last year at this time I tended to have Mike 03 Dec 2024 #20

What one does depends on how important the issue is Kaleva Dec 2024 #83

The "American people" voted to let it go on... Wounded Bear Dec 2024 #3

Would a Harris administration do more to stop it than Biden did? Martin Eden Dec 2024 #104

I actually think she would have. At least I hoped so, but now it will likely get much worse under Trump. Celerity Dec 2024 #235

Two possible reasons Kamala didn't say she would withold bombs from Israel Martin Eden Dec 2024 #240

Both I would say. Good points. Celerity Dec 2024 #241

Aside from electoral politics, the BIG question remains: Martin Eden Dec 2024 #242

The opposite of what Trump will likely do. Celerity Dec 2024 #243

They've got their hotels and casinos designed and ready to go, as soon as the bloody mess is bulldozed over. msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #120

Who are "they"? Where are the designs? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #122

There's a "concept" of a design. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #123

Oh... My bad. My total lack of compassion for humanity blinded me to a concept of a design. Shame on me. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #124

..... msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #131

Well there's this guy: Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #140

So the "they" are just one guy. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #163

It was an example, as you very well know. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #170

An example of what? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #176

Lol. Keep digging, Beast. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #179

Stop Being Silly IamHappy Dec 2024 #180

Believe me, I am very serious. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #181

Wait! H2O Man Dec 2024 #165

Of course, silly me. :) Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #168

I blame Hamas for hiding in, around and under its women and children. elias7 Dec 2024 #4

Curious, no blame from you for the murderous warmongers Netanyahu/likud/IDF commanders who keep bombing the shit... brush Dec 2024 #6

A curious deflection into something that's only been mentioned a couple of dozen times in this thread alone... Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #63

Which should tell you how biased, one-sided unfeeling and bereft of humanity your op is. Get a clue. brush Dec 2024 #65

Tell me more about the bias. and give more examples, please. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #67

Oh, it's you, BB. I hadn't noticed before. I know ou're totally one-sided on the matter... brush Dec 2024 #69

My empathy is no one's business but my own. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #73

Let's not go any further with this, pls. brush Dec 2024 #75

That is my wish, and I appreciate your offer. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #79

"my empathy for Gazan civilians, in deed and not in word, is likely to exceed that of the most vocal performers here on Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #185

Here that whooshing sound going over your head? MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #190

For some ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #194

For others, discerning between a logic-based opinion and a strawman argument is a real struggle. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #218

And my ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #223

...What was your point again? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #227

It is ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #228

Since I am not getting your point, and since you replied to my post, and not post #190, Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #233

I'll go over it, but in smaller pieces for you. ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #234

Ok, I guess I did need to go over it in smaller pieces and in proper order. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #236

"Here* that whooshing sound going over your head?" Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #222

Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #224

No, but I certainly feel superior to the purveyors of performative outrage, and not just on DU. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #193

Never malaise Dec 2024 #187

When America drs are seeing toddlers with gun shots in their heads womanofthehills Dec 2024 #9

You are aware they came to power directly with Bibi support years ago? IbogaProject Dec 2024 #12

Did you see these articles from Haaretz? people Dec 2024 #13

This. So much this. ZRB Dec 2024 #15

Israel imilitary just assumes that any Palestinian man is Hamas erodriguez Dec 2024 #22

Israel's produced precious little evidence that snot Dec 2024 #26

That didn't age well, did it?Less than 24 hours after the end of operation, the evidence. And it's just a start. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #220

Thank you. Could you please provide the source for your info? snot Dec 2024 #237

Sorry, here it is: Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #238

Fwiw, here is the Guardian's account of what appears to be the same attack: snot Dec 2024 #239

Yes, I read the article. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #244

This message was self-deleted by its author spapeggy Dec 2024 #27

What you write PhylliPretzel Dec 2024 #30

Except confessions of Hamas leaders of doing just that. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #71

Post those videos, we would like to see your proof. arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #80

If you insist. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #96

"confessions of Hamas leaders" Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #87

Doesn't look like these Hamas terrorists are being tortured, does it? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #97

This is a good example of non sequitur with a dash of Israeli propaganda and two scoops of bullshit in the mix. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #137

Are you saying they DO look like they are being tortured? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #142

I wasn't talking about these guys and your reply has nothing to do with the op. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #147

Wait a minute... let me process this... was I supposed to reply to YOUR post with something that has to do with the OP Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #156

"your ridiculous presumption that ALL of them were tortured?" Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #166

Why a diversion all of a sudden? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #173

This doesn't work for BB any more uponit7771 Dec 2024 #32

Look what you made us do" is the mentality of abusers & psychopaths. Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #42

I blame the gullible and/or complicit for uncritically spewing Israeli propaganda. AloeVera Dec 2024 #56

Don't support Starbucks either, every cup of beverage purchased, a percentage goes to Israel. People akbacchus_BC Dec 2024 #111

Are you telling me there are still progressive types overpaying for that muddy piss just to show off? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #125

Spot on! thank you. comradebillyboy Dec 2024 #113

Congo and Darfur are much more concerning Fichefinder Dec 2024 #5

No place is more concerning than the other womanofthehills Dec 2024 #10

Uh huh. How curious far worse slaughters NEVER get mentioned Arazi Dec 2024 #11

Excellent observation. There are any number of comradebillyboy Dec 2024 #115

Then please do post some OPs on them iemanja Dec 2024 #85

Nobody really cares about those places because comradebillyboy Dec 2024 #116

We cared about Iraq iemanja Dec 2024 #145

No words for Sudan again I see... Arazi Dec 2024 #8

I'm curious quakerboy Dec 2024 #19

The OP is about the slaughter of innocents Arazi Dec 2024 #21

The dead and hungry quakerboy Dec 2024 #41

US involvement isn't the point of the OP however Arazi Dec 2024 #43

Id say it is. quakerboy Dec 2024 #48

Why can't we effect change in Darfur? Or Congo? Arazi Dec 2024 #49

How? quakerboy Dec 2024 #74

Removing US aid would not stop Israeli action in Gaza Arazi Dec 2024 #92

I dont agree. Period. quakerboy Dec 2024 #134

I just did a search under your name for Darfur, Congo, and Sudan iemanja Dec 2024 #82

It's not about *my* fixation Arazi Dec 2024 #93

Your singular point iemanja Dec 2024 #144

It's a very short post and not difficult to read iemanja Dec 2024 #78

Again I repeat, it's not *my* fixation Arazi Dec 2024 #94

You're the one continually raising it as an excuse. iemanja Dec 2024 #143

I'm curious sarisataka Dec 2024 #23

There is a difference in power over the situation, in my perception quakerboy Dec 2024 #40

No, but it makes us as taxpayers complicit in the genocide iemanja Dec 2024 #84

Just to show how superficial and fallacious this argument is, Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #99

62,000 is the number of dead I see for Sudan womanofthehills Dec 2024 #53

Sudan: "..up to 150,000 people had been killed in the conflict across the country." EX500rider Dec 2024 #66

Whataboutism iemanja Dec 2024 #76

me too BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2024 #14

Why do posts like this never mention Hamas? perdita9 Dec 2024 #16

Because Hamas are "freedom fighters like Mandela" BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #37

Hamas: mr715 Dec 2024 #52

Because it's not a war - it's a one way slaughter womanofthehills Dec 2024 #54

So who's been killing IDF soldiers and Israeli civilians? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #62

Hamas and Hezbollah did not form in a political vacuum. lees1975 Dec 2024 #70

Of course not. They wouldn't exist if Iran didn't prop them up in their quest to destabilize the entire region. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #102

The reason for their formation and existence was present long before Iran got involved. lees1975 Dec 2024 #114

Hamas was founded in 1987. Hezbollah was founded in 1985. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #119

I think you are well aware of the reason. Just as an example, after Oct 7, there was sparce condemnation of what Hamas JohnSJ Dec 2024 #106

Great post. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #117

Because now it's not Hamas doing the slaughtering? AloeVera Dec 2024 #157

You are presuming that hiding among civilians in humanitarian zones is not an atrocity. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #225

It is a reason there will never be peace. Violence begets violence and revenge seems to be a basic human instinct. surfered Dec 2024 #17

real talk: no one. quakerboy Dec 2024 #18

K&R 2naSalit Dec 2024 #24

The bib got dump elected. Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #25

Others want credit as well sarisataka Dec 2024 #35

Hamas is going to stop "Bibi and the Complicit West" by returning the hostages. maxsolomon Dec 2024 #28

I gave up on Israel when Bibi MuchBetterThanThis Dec 2024 #29

Aid enid602 Dec 2024 #39

The hostages have been in the terror tunnels for well over a year. Richard D Dec 2024 #31

Someone give Israel their own planet, in another galaxy please Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #45

If you can't care about the hostages Hamas took, you can't care about the civilians killed in the war either NickB79 Dec 2024 #46

You're right . . . Richard D Dec 2024 #47

Oh I know revenge has nothing to do with it. Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #89

This word salad is as meaningless as it is familiar. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #105

It infuriates me. AloeVera Dec 2024 #127

Ah so Jewish people defending themselves is pure evil. ZRB Dec 2024 #139

Evil is evil, even when Jews are committing it. AloeVera Dec 2024 #153

So, you agree then, that Hamas is very evil? yagotme Dec 2024 #229

And routinely disregarding evil with one conspicuous exception smacks of special dispensation, doesn't it? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #232

Wanna cracker, Polly? Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #183

"False atrocity propaganda" . . . Richard D Dec 2024 #148

Touched a nerve... AloeVera Dec 2024 #155

Pathetic Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #162

Thank you for this. AloeVera Dec 2024 #212

New health dept report heading to the UN. (WARNING) Mosby Dec 2024 #213

You and I both know that there are those who will deny this MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #214

Hi MCE. AloeVera Dec 2024 #219

Hi AloeVera, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #221

Just be careful, that's how Willie Nelson got hurt,,, yagotme Dec 2024 #230

Hitting the road again? AloeVera Dec 2024 #231

Are you for real? Mossfern Dec 2024 #160

Plenty of information from reputable Human Rights organizations Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #167

I'm talking about the atrocities of 10/7 Mossfern Dec 2024 #169

Here's your answer Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #171

Uncaptured media Mossfern Dec 2024 #177

You hit the nail on the head. AloeVera Dec 2024 #59

Excellent points AloeVera Avalon Sparks Dec 2024 #90

That's a gross overestimation. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #108

The sad and harsh truth malaise Dec 2024 #100

That's the problem. You don't care enough to ask yourself what the reason for such discrepancy is. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #101

Bingo. Cruelty is what netenyahu has unleashed on the Palestinians. That was his goal all along and akbacchus_BC Dec 2024 #112

If cruelty was his goal all along, Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #126

Everything you say is what Israel is doing to their prisoners womanofthehills Dec 2024 #55

Who has the video? How many hostages are "many"? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #109

And guess what? MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #118

Ha. Only because there is video. AloeVera Dec 2024 #172

Ha!!! MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #174

Some divides are chasms too wide and deep to bridge, MCE AloeVera Dec 2024 #184

I do love a good challenge. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #189

"Who is going to stop Bibi and the complicit West?" J_William_Ryan Dec 2024 #33

This is, unfortunately, the way it is calguy Dec 2024 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #36

This kind The Bopper Dec 2024 #38

So am I. It's far past time for Hamas to surrender. tritsofme Dec 2024 #44

You, my friend, are not the only one sick of the IDF shit! Genocide, plainly. Jit423 Dec 2024 #50

THIS malaise Dec 2024 #58

Answer: mr715 Dec 2024 #51

What's the likelihood of that? AloeVera Dec 2024 #57

As likely as democracy to win at home mr715 Dec 2024 #68

I don't see it. AloeVera Dec 2024 #159

And now they have bombed the last hospital malaise Dec 2024 #188

Three babies froze to death in the last few days. AloeVera Dec 2024 #192

Not to defend how out of proportion edhopper Dec 2024 #60

Feeling pretty healthy about the far worse slaughter everywhere else? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #61

Bibi isn't at blame. He is responding to the threat to his people. Groundhawg Dec 2024 #86

I watched a great documentary the other evening. It's called "The Bibi Files". Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #88

Why the 7 Oct 2023 Attack in Southern Israel? C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #91

Are we justifyig hostage taking now? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #110

Ask Donnie Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #98

Beyond sick. marble falls Dec 2024 #103

Netanyahu is setting up World War. Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #107

Those that murder civilians are never the "Good Guys". Ping Tung Dec 2024 #121

What is your opinion about killing illegal combatants who commit a war crime of perfidy? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #128

The same as my opinions about "legal" combatants who kill, starve, torture civilians. Ping Tung Dec 2024 #129

Which is... what, exactly? Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #130

That they're war criminals. Ping Tung Dec 2024 #132

Ok, I must have misunderstood the purpose of your post. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #135

OK Mossfern Dec 2024 #161

The only thing that works in stopping a bully OP is ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #133

How about the Arab countries, get off their asses, and make some demands of Bibi, and rescue fellow Arabs? amuse bouche Dec 2024 #136

I believe that you have a good point. nt Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #138

You see there's a really good reason for that... ZRB Dec 2024 #141

Who is the pro-Hamas crowd? iemanja Dec 2024 #146

I don't know what else to call people parroting Hamas propaganda ZRB Dec 2024 #150

Systematically bombing hospitals is mass murder iemanja Dec 2024 #154

What systematic bombing of hospitals? ZRB Dec 2024 #178

There are 22 Arab countries amuse bouche Dec 2024 #191

Everywhere I look...I see HAMAS! Lemons UK Dec 2024 #149

I hate it too, but it isn't just Bibi and the west. 58Sunliner Dec 2024 #151

Hamas can stop it's terrorist activities. nycbos Dec 2024 #152

No one in power cares... WarGamer Dec 2024 #158

And I'm sick of the anti Israel propaganda posted here. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #164

"anti Israel propaganda posted here" Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #182

Genocide and war crimes malaise Dec 2024 #216

Sorry, not buying what you're trying to sell here. nt MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2024 #217

Am I lost? LiberaBlueDem Dec 2024 #175

Yes, unfortunately I noticed that also. That's a damn shame. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #186

Democrats aren't pacifists. Mosby Dec 2024 #200

The continued slaughter is no longer self defense within the confines of this current war Martin Eden Dec 2024 #195

Israel should continue to degrade Hamas Mosby Dec 2024 #196

"They don't want a country, they want to destroy Israel." Martin Eden Dec 2024 #199

I think Native Americans might have come to that conclusion too. y AloeVera Dec 2024 #203

Native Americans, in their desperation and grief, turned to the Ghost Dance. Martin Eden Dec 2024 #206

Sometimes words can't either. AloeVera Dec 2024 #211

A very thoughtful response malaise Dec 2024 #197

The US is protecting our interests there.. by supporting Israel Arazi Dec 2024 #201

But no issue with the higher death counts in other recent wars? EX500rider Dec 2024 #198

Gaza is the worst slaughter of civilians in a "war" by any measure in the last 20 years or more. AloeVera Dec 2024 #202

So killing 10 people in a country with 20 people would be worse then killing 3 million in a country with 23 million? EX500rider Dec 2024 #204

Lol!! AloeVera Dec 2024 #205

Lets use the UN number maybe? EX500rider Dec 2024 #207

I thought your side didn't trust the UN. AloeVera Dec 2024 #208

"unverified, unproven, evidence-free, totally made-up claim that the death toll of around 45k" EX500rider Dec 2024 #209

Ah, selective editing. AloeVera Dec 2024 #210

Correct malaise Dec 2024 #215