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66. Riiiiight..

Wed Jan 8, 2025, 10:56 AM

Jan 2025

Self- hatred....THAT will work.

Sorry, but I don't think the citizens of any country are innately more inclined to racism, stupidity, or selfishness than others. .As I'd guess most here know, an attempt to broadbrush the people of another country this way would be hidden for bigotry...Just sayin'.

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In my fucked up brain I still just can't buy that the election was legitimate. [View all] Botany Jan 2025 OP

Legit or not doesn't really matter anymore. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2025 #1

It matters. Not to turn the election over. OnionPatch Jan 2025 #85

It's probably too late to avoid it. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2025 #87

We lost, is how it happened HereForTheParty Jan 2025 #179

Just curious, how and why are you sure? What makes KPN Jan 2025 #186

If there is any way they could have done it OnionPatch Jan 2025 #197

What you said!! Charging Triceratops Jan 2025 #2

truth dosent matter to them at all. they dont give a hoot hoot hoot, AllaN01Bear Jan 2025 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Jan 2025 #27

They also never mention... Wuddles440 Jan 2025 #34

Nor the subsidies n/t rasputin1952 Jan 2025 #67

Anyone who would orchestrate an insurrection, is totally capable of stealing Emile Jan 2025 #3

Absolutely yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #12

It was an amateurish insurrection that failed miserably (while damaging lives and the People's property). . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #42

It was but it showed others what he was willing to do whopis01 Jan 2025 #84

Well stated post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #86

We must hold those who legit voted Trump accountable. The Grand Illuminist Jan 2025 #206

Elon Musk apparently got caught rigging the German election next month for the ATF Nazis to win. Meadowoak Jan 2025 #81

Wow, I missed that piece of information! I hope they have evidence of the method used. liberalla Jan 2025 #93

This is interesting. Do you have links so we can assess credibility of what Macron might have exactly said? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #95

Here - He accused Musk of meddling through Twitter/X Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #177

Thanks, that is what I thought it was. Interference is not "rigging", which the earlier poster used Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #192

Yep. Interference is what Russia did in the 2016 US elections (and the 2 elections since) Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #195

Sorry but that is BS - he didn't rig an election that hasnt even happened yet Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #173

Maybe it's time to consider the fact that we are a country full of morons, racists, and selfish pricks? dem4decades Jan 2025 #4

Who believe in Jay-BEEZus Christ Botany Jan 2025 #10

Repubs will take credit for that manufacturing plant. Just wait and see. Ohioboy Jan 2025 #24

Even though Rep. Balderson whose district the plant is in no doubt voted against the Chips Act .. Botany Jan 2025 #30

But, but he's oooold... rubbersole Jan 2025 #28

it was considered since the founding of our government cadoman Jan 2025 #44

Riiiiight.. whathehell Jan 2025 #66

I agree with you... Think. Again. Jan 2025 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2025 #6

Nobody is going to give you the answers you seek. Kaleva Jan 2025 #7

I remain malaise Jan 2025 #8

"Doubting" is an appropriate stance at this time. I am slightly vaguely doubtful myself Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #46

I've mentioned numerous inconsistencies in other threads Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #9

Ugly indeed. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #15

Sometimes I wish we would have put a huge $$$$$ reward up KS Toronado Jan 2025 #52

Yes, I have as well ScratchCat Jan 2025 #82

I like logic. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #165

The fix was in DENVERPOPS Jan 2025 #98

Maybe it's not your brain that's yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #11

Yup it's the same reason why they stole every swing state spapeggy Jan 2025 #18

But the SAME THING happened in 2020. Look at GA; Callie1979 Jan 2025 #25

Where were Ivanka's voting machines deployed? Why did Muak all but guarantee victory in the swing states? live love laugh Jan 2025 #13

And wasn't Musk's Star Link in contact to the central tabulators in all the swing states? Botany Jan 2025 #17

NO. Star Link wasnt connected to ANY voting equipment. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #23

I have read that voting personnel praised Star link for increasing connectivity Botany Jan 2025 #49

The flaws that were shown required the machines to be connected. Here's a StarLink story: Callie1979 Jan 2025 #80

I agree this is fishy IbogaProject Jan 2025 #36

he cant do jack diddley. he aint sworn in yet. AllaN01Bear Jan 2025 #16

You're not the only one. I'm right there with you. liberalla Jan 2025 #19

"And how many racist, sexist, and mouth breathing dumb fucks does this country really have?" Ray Bruns Jan 2025 #20

I feel the same way and BonnieJW Jan 2025 #21

Star link was NOT connected to ANYTHING Callie1979 Jan 2025 #22

It was not a legitimate win. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #26

Disinformation won. rubbersole Jan 2025 #35

IMHO the stolen/blackmail top securtiy secrets documents won/gave him another term. nt bonniebgood Jan 2025 #162

One of my many many pet peeves. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #166

Evidence? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #40

They are not taking our democracy from us,... magicarpet Jan 2025 #47

..... forgot the butler emoji.... magicarpet Jan 2025 #51

I said the same thing. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #167

The Deepest State tees up internationalist change? bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #29

Yeah, Trump stole the election Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #31

Evidence ? . (speculation and innuendo are not evidence) . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #39

There's plenty of evidence Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #70

Post the plentiful evidence, w sources. Show it. You can't show evidence fr credible sources, I'm sure. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #71

Can you show credible evidence Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #73

YOU said it was plentiful. Post the plentiful evidence you claim to have seen. Democrats have integrity Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #74

Many countries do routine audits of election results Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #91

How are you sure there were not routine audits in this election? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #94

Probable cause is evidence Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #133

No. The standard refers to the evidence because the evidence has to come first Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #135

You obviously didn't read most of what I wrote Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #139

I read it all. You can't make sense of what I wrote because you make accusations and speculations on no evidence. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #142

Facts (evidence) first, then Probable Cause, then more facts, then charges. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #141

You really, really want to believe Trump won Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #145

No, and there you go again with the CHEAP tactic of trying to tell me what I am thinking. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #146

I'm just stating what your behavior shows Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #149

And you are recommending your own posts. How cheap is that? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #150

I read the whole of your post more than twice. Probable cause is a conclusion from evidence, not the other way around Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #144

You do not win the argument by Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #147

There is no evidence to conclude probable cause. You have presented none because you have none. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #148

Just read the original post Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #151

The original post presents NO evidence, names, or sources. I called the poster out on it too in post #37. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #152

Not to worry Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #154

Circumstantial evidence is still evidence. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #175

It would be nice if the poster gave even circumstantial evidence, but not even that. They gave nothing Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #193

The evidence is all over Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #196

"The evidence is all over" Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #207

It's not that I can't Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #216

Audits are routinely done during certification/nt Abnredleg Jan 2025 #129

Yes, but they do not audit results of elections Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #134

What do you think is "auditing the results" and how are you sure that was not done? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #137

No, they audit the results Abnredleg Jan 2025 #143

Which states and elections? Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #153

You made the allegation: Ball is in your court. But you have no evidence, no names, no sources. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #155

All the swing states, for a start Abnredleg Jan 2025 #156

He didn't steal the election. He bought it! DaveDuhRave Jan 2025 #48

Occam's razor says this is easier to do, doesn't risk prison time & doesn't require huge coverup/concealment. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #97

We are a big choir. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #169

I've been thinking this for a long time Chicagogrl1 Jan 2025 #32

Probably because they only had speculation and no credible evidence Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #38

Right. You're doing a great job pushing back on this nonsense. Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #185

We just talk ourselves out of everything, don't we? hadEnuf Jan 2025 #163

How many provisionals? counted provisionals, uncounted provisionals, scared by reports of violence, ... Festivito Jan 2025 #33

If you don't have real evidence, then this kind of speculation doesn't serve you well Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #37

I have done election work for 20 years and something about the election doesn't pass my smell test Botany Jan 2025 #43

Sure. But sometimes some things stink without being rotten. All the same continue to be alert Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #50

If it was stolen, DV1 Jan 2025 #41

Me either. Unfortunately, we don't know how they did it. travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #45

That's exactly how I see it. Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #53

Watch how fast "they" push the scam that is Crypto. Botany Jan 2025 #54

...and Project 2025 Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #55

Prepare for incoming!!! Hope22 Jan 2025 #56

I don't think you are fucked up at all. hadEnuf Jan 2025 #57

But..but..but...the lady!!! Hope22 Jan 2025 #58

I agree with you Andy823 Jan 2025 #59

Never underestimate the hate and stupidity of the American electorate. yourout Jan 2025 #60

What's fucked up is that you think your brain is fucked up to thinks these things. Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #61

No conspiracy. Just morons, idiots, racists, white nationalist neo-nazis, dominionists, and misogynists. Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #62

Starlink Jughead Jan 2025 #63

No, not enough said Abnredleg Jan 2025 #130

So we know the Chinese have been hacking the government since at least October right? questionseverything Jan 2025 #209

The Chinese have hacked networks connected to the Internet Abnredleg Jan 2025 #210

It's only the reporting page that needs hacked questionseverything Jan 2025 #211

That is very incorrect Abnredleg Jan 2025 #212

Thats like Southern_gent Jan 2025 #220

Not fucked up at all! ananda Jan 2025 #64

It was just too damn easy INdemo Jan 2025 #65

100% agreed relayerbob Jan 2025 #68

I am the same way! Initech Jan 2025 #69

Never under estimate the STUPIDITY of the "joe rogan" American public. Add to that the racism, sexism, and bigotry that JohnSJ Jan 2025 #72

My feelings exactly kimbutgar Jan 2025 #75

Oh Well... Mr.Bee Jan 2025 #76

So...when we lose it's rigged just like they claimed four years ago? Bengus81 Jan 2025 #77

As he said in Georgia.... Hope22 Jan 2025 #107

Yeah it's disappointing to lose ZRB Jan 2025 #78

The polls continually had it as a close race, even when Biden was our nominee. Omnipresent Jan 2025 #79

There's no way he won 7 swing states legitimately - TBF Jan 2025 #83

The bullet ballot BS was just that - BS Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #88

You do realize that the bullet ballot theory was immediately disproven right? EdmondDantes_ Jan 2025 #89

you do realize NJCher Jan 2025 #96

No there really isn't. The other stuff was primarily based on feels EdmondDantes_ Jan 2025 #174

What a joke NJCher Jan 2025 #187

You're only repeating yourself NJCher Jan 2025 #194

Spot on, Botany dlilafae Jan 2025 #90

I agree. Grumpy Old Guy Jan 2025 #92

It's not a stretch to distrust a proven liar and a cheat and a Russian Asset... suegeo Jan 2025 #99

I still hate George W. Bush. He also stole his office. suegeo Jan 2025 #112

I'm sorry, but did you just say Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #208

re your NJCher Jan 2025 #100

Trust me I have lived with myself my whole life and I'm a dumb ass .. Botany Jan 2025 #101

Botany.......... Upthevibe Jan 2025 #102

I just toss it on top of the pile... stillcool Jan 2025 #103

The election was stolded!!! Bonx Jan 2025 #104

I guess..... Lokee11 Jan 2025 #105

It it was stolen.. Escape Jan 2025 #106

I think the same vankuria Jan 2025 #108

Google France and Elon election interference Linda ladeewolf Jan 2025 #109

I have seen stories that Musk and Vlad have interfered with other elections in the past. Botany Jan 2025 #111

My thoughts on this are I 100% know something happened. bluestarone Jan 2025 #110

Agreed. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #178

If any of this is true, this logic demands that Biden and Harris are complicit in the "theft" tritsofme Jan 2025 #113

It was legit sarisataka Jan 2025 #114

I have noticed this trend at DU for a long time. totodeinhere Jan 2025 #219

Turns out that running a fair election is actually quite difficult. Aussie105 Jan 2025 #115

I think a lot of stuff went on, but too many people stayed home. valleyrogue Jan 2025 #116

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2025 #117

Magic isn't pulling a rabbit out of a hat - it's manipulating perceptions. alittlelark Jan 2025 #118

Neither can I. Just can't shake it. But, for now, we move on. Joinfortmill Jan 2025 #119

Greg Palast 90-percent Jan 2025 #120

Lots of good questions but no answers Hassler Jan 2025 #121

I will say this. OldBaldy1701E Jan 2025 #122

And in contesting the 2020 election "they" got a hold of the voting machines and tabulators hardware and software. Botany Jan 2025 #125

Republicans ALWAYS throw up a smoke screen to accuse other people of doing what they themselves are actually doing. hadEnuf Jan 2025 #168

Their MO, from the recess yard...appropriately. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #181

Totally agree gopiscrap Jan 2025 #123

I'm with you DingleBerryNW Jan 2025 #124

How did it get by every Democratic elections expert? ibegurpard Jan 2025 #126

You are not alone... Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #127

From the point of view re Republican voter disenfranchisement B.See Jan 2025 #128

100% Agree yankee87 Jan 2025 #131

We the People will never know the extent of AI and propaganda from other countries that soaked into millions of voters Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #132

What was drumpf and little johnson's 'little secret"???? tazcat Jan 2025 #136

Of Course He Stole It DET Jan 2025 #138

I asked the same questions. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #183

I hate indulging in such conspiracy theories, but in the back of my mind I just... the nelm Jan 2025 #140

The "stolen election" was a smoke screen. hadEnuf Jan 2025 #172

Back in 2020 The Wizard Jan 2025 #157

If trump just won in every swing state and every other state stayed that same DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2025 #158

In 2920, I got flyers from both campaigns asking me to vote by mail Kaleva Jan 2025 #180

I've wondered for years about the "shy Trump voter" phenomenon in polls AdamGG Jan 2025 #159

I suggest Iowa maga are more gaslightable than Mass maga; more susceptible to fears about Deep State. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #160

Good point AdamGG Jan 2025 #161

Yes. What if the polls were not wrong? yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #184

Do you mean the polls that on average were right where the election was? EdmondDantes_ Jan 2025 #217

Agree Meowmee Jan 2025 #164

I feel the same. Control-Z Jan 2025 #170

The hardest thing for me to understand is the lower turnout of Democratic voters. 3catwoman3 Jan 2025 #171

We aren't election deniers. That's trump's schtick. Groundhawg Jan 2025 #176

And yet, this thread Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #201

I am not convince it was legit. NOT AT ALL vapor2 Jan 2025 #182

I think he stole 2016 and tried in 2020. 58Sunliner Jan 2025 #188

I could not understand how samplegirl Jan 2025 #189

Nothing wrong w your brain that I can see, Botany. I have the same questions & more. Hekate Jan 2025 #190

We lost. I for one will take the loss graciously. William769 Jan 2025 #191

Indeed. Patton French Jan 2025 #198

Me either. Those bullet ballots probably came from the same print shop as the fake elector documents. Vinca Jan 2025 #199

Could someone PLEASE give more info: "What was Musk doing compiling a d-base list of votes that could be brought in..." ._. Jan 2025 #200

As near as I can tell and or guess Musk bought (not registered? I'll give you $100 to register. Musk) .... Botany Jan 2025 #204

This message was self-deleted by its author ._. Jan 2025 #213

Watch how fast that "they" push the total scam that is Crypto now. The Crypto boys were in on the steal. Botany Jan 2025 #215

This message was self-deleted by its author ._. Jan 2025 #218

If you make politics your religion, your brain will have difficulty processing contrary information Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #202

My brain has always had difficulties in processing information. Botany Jan 2025 #203

You don't think that the election was legitimate because you don't want to believe that Trump totodeinhere Jan 2025 #205

This message was self-deleted by its author ._. Jan 2025 #214