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highplainsdem

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Fri Jan 31, 2025, 03:49 PM Jan 2025

"Someone" ordered the Army Corps of Engineers to release flood-risking levels of California water from two lakes [View all]

Last edited Fri Jan 31, 2025, 06:59 PM - Edit history (1)

starting yesterday, with only an hour's warning to authorities and first responders downstream.

Saw posts from MeidasTouch and Ron Filipkowski about this:

https://sjvwater.org/decision-to-dump-water-from-tulare-county-lakes-altered-after-sending-locals-in-mad-scramble/

This is probably what Trump meant in his idiotic Truth Social post about sending the military into California to turn on the water.

The local authorities were able to talk the Corps of Engineers out of releasing so much all at once.

“We’re still trying to wrap our minds around the numbers that made this happen,” Fukuda said. “We haven’t received much information from the Army Corps, just very vague answers.”

Rick Brown, chief public affairs officer for the Sacramento office of the Army Corps, would only say that levels in both lakes were “currently in the flood control space.”

He directed further questions to the Army Corps’ headquarters, which did not return an email Thursday asking: Who made the decision to release the water? Why? Why so suddenly? And why weren’t safety personnel notified?

Some people interviewed for this story speculated that the move was political on the part of the new administration, a kind of water “flex,” but declined to elaborate.



***** EDITING after an LA Times story with the official explanation *****

According to the Army Corps of Engineers, this was done following Trump's orders to "to ensure California has water available to respond to the wildfires."

Some people replying below have suggested it was done to lower the water level before an atmospheric river hits. While that might be a standard reason - and should have come with a clear explanation and more advance notice - that is NOT the official reason given.

LBN thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143385580
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K&R yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #1
So when we need water in a drought, these lakes won't have enough DBoon Jan 2025 #2
That's our summer water supply Retrograde Jan 2025 #31
Exactly obamanut2012 Jan 2025 #33
I am beginning to feel like the kids who threw spitballs in the back of the classroom in 10th grade madaboutharry Jan 2025 #3
The bullies are in charge, how wonderful. Dave Bowman Jan 2025 #10
One of the few things I can hope for is that his fan base suffers for it and finally says enough. AStern Jan 2025 #19
If Covid didn't convince them, mercuryblues Jan 2025 #21
how many deaths is he and his cult going to be responsible for? NewHendoLib Jan 2025 #4
It will be catastrophic. :( Dave Bowman Jan 2025 #11
asdf durablend Jan 2025 #23
Keep in mind there is an atmospheric river coming in this weekend and into next week... Wounded Bear Jan 2025 #5
This was probably an internal directive in the Corp of Engineers yellowdogintexas Jan 2025 #17
Agreed. Like I said, I expect these kinds of comm issues to expand and worsen...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2025 #18
See the note at the bottom of the edited OP. highplainsdem Jan 2025 #39
California does this every time a massive storm is inbound. Preventative measures. pfitz59 Jan 2025 #29
See the note at the bottom of the edited OP. highplainsdem Jan 2025 #40
See the note at the bottom of the edited OP. highplainsdem Jan 2025 #38
"Someone" is the idiot in charge. pandr32 Jan 2025 #6
Damn Solly Mack Jan 2025 #7
Gee, I guess he really did send in the "Army". I saw people speculating that that was his meaning. LauraInLA Jan 2025 #8
Nah. rubbersole Jan 2025 #13
Not a Good Sign DET Jan 2025 #9
exactly. CharleyDog Jan 2025 #14
And his fans are gullible enough to believe him. calimary Jan 2025 #24
We have a lunatic charlatan in charge. Emile Jan 2025 #12
With an orange psycho as his righthand man... rubbersole Jan 2025 #15
I hope they get answers orangecrush Jan 2025 #16
See the note at the bottom of the edited OP. highplainsdem Jan 2025 #42
Thanks orangecrush Jan 2025 #44
This is fucking insanity!! I'm really starting to think California needs to secede. This is such BS! LymphocyteLover Jan 2025 #20
Gives you an idea of how quickly he can make crazy shit happen, with no regard for consequences. Sociopath to the core. Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #22
OMG what assholes n/t moonbeam23 Jan 2025 #25
Voters of the MAGA nation thought Trump's retribution would be against people MAGA doesn't like Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #26
I guess we are finding out that the military johnnyfins Jan 2025 #27
Chill out folks! This is NOT Trump! pfitz59 Jan 2025 #28
No reason was given, and no standard advance notice. If this was only about the atmospheric river, highplainsdem Jan 2025 #30
Not business as usual. "In 25 years, I've never seen anything like this," "I've been doing this 18 years and have never chia Jan 2025 #32
Wrong obamanut2012 Jan 2025 #34
See the edited OP with the official Army Corps explanation & LBN thread. Trump's orders re wildfires. highplainsdem Jan 2025 #36
Californian here, It now, today, looks like we are about to have another long spell of rain being called an atmospheric ShazamIam Jan 2025 #35
See the note at the bottom of the edited OP. highplainsdem Jan 2025 #37
Thanks, the addition was probably made as I was typing, and I was interrupted because I'm also cooking. ShazamIam Jan 2025 #41
And why does the Army Corps of Engineers not have notifications as part of their protocol? dickthegrouch Jan 2025 #43
Insane retribution for mocking him Qutzupalotl Feb 2025 #45
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