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In It to Win It

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23. Sure, but that's now... after the election is over. It's what attracted people to vote for him that's the issue.
Sat Aug 23, 2025, 04:11 PM
Aug 2025

I'm sure "no tax on tips" pulled in some people. They took the bet on him first and worried about the details later.

Basically, the "no tax on tips" may have been that thing that pulled in 0.15% of people, and then embracing cypto may have pulled in another 0.10% of voters... and so on. His support among Black people improved in 2024. Sure, he lost Black people by a wide margin but in Pennsylvania and Michigan, any little percentage point he could have taken from Kamala Harris mattered. His support among young people increased.

The point is that he used these issues that mattered to a small amount of people to eek out the wins in close states, and things like "no tax on tips" and the inconvenience of taking your shoes off at the airport meant enough to a small group to bet on him to come out ahead by a few thousand votes.

To your point, of course, he's going to have the assholes, the bigots and the racists vote for him... but these little niche groups that cared about these niche issues may have put him over the top. The racists and the bigots probably aren't enough of them to put him over the top in Nevada.

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Bill Maher's New Rules hurt but important [View all] question everything Aug 2025 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author CurtEastPoint Aug 2025 #1
I have no interest in the comments of a trump pimp like Maher. Paladin Aug 2025 #2
Watch Christopher Titus instead - he's the anti-Maher. Initech Aug 2025 #4
Oh, he's already done that! imaginary girl Aug 2025 #5
I agree, there is nothing he has to say that would get me to watch him. Bev54 Aug 2025 #13
Minions gotta minion 😉 SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2025 #35
Maher on Newsom "He's grasped the key to America, you don't try to outsmart people, you outstupid them." Swede Aug 2025 #3
I have zero patience JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #6
Correlation does not equal causation. W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #7
Do they interview many workers that rely on tips? In It to Win It Aug 2025 #17
Funny, most of the interviews I see of restaurant workers nowadays are how tourism has cratered... W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #19
Sure, but that's now... after the election is over. It's what attracted people to vote for him that's the issue. In It to Win It Aug 2025 #23
It was mostly black men that are jealous of black women JI7 Aug 2025 #24
Re Harris' no tax on tips In It to Win It Aug 2025 #26
It was mostly a non issue and an excuse to vote for a bigot JI7 Aug 2025 #29
So all of the new 2024 Trump voters that swung for him would have done so anyway In It to Win It Aug 2025 #30
A younger white man or charismatic non white man like Obama JI7 Aug 2025 #31
Thank you for a clear explanation. We should keep these examples for future campaigns question everything Aug 2025 #34
If he's going to list things about Trump, and he doesn't mention 'immigration', 'race', 'LGBT', 'abortion', or 'woke' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #8
+1. Maher is right that voters preferred trump to what we were offering. Until we accept that, we'll keep losing. Silent Type Aug 2025 #9
Where does that lead to though? AZProgressive Aug 2025 #11
Pretty much agree. However, too many GOPers vote by mail for trump to pull that off. And let's say he does, if Silent Type Aug 2025 #12
Then Democrats have to find a better response to the Trump offerings. Feel Good Inc Aug 2025 #15
Sure, but Nevedans didn't know what "no tax on tips" would look like In It to Win It Aug 2025 #16
"No tax on tips" is easier to sell than trying to explain unintended consequences. Plus, VP Harris jumped on it too, Silent Type Aug 2025 #21
Yes, exactly. I agree In It to Win It Aug 2025 #22
Democrats did little to explain it. In fact, Harris also supported no tax on tips. Feel Good Inc Aug 2025 #33
Trump is still offering everything he did before the election and yet he is already back to being hated. W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #20
Can't wait to not watch the clip. BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #10
I despise Bill Maher. Another attention thirsty "Libertarian" man-child. Greybnk48 Aug 2025 #14
Usually, it means "Do your thing and leave me alone" TnDem Aug 2025 #18
How much more money are people making with no tax on tips now ? JI7 Aug 2025 #25
But this is the problem. We should not talk about facts and figures but images question everything Aug 2025 #32
I see Bill Maher, i stop reading. dem4decades Aug 2025 #27
Fuck Bill Maher Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #28
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