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In reply to the discussion: It's not a drawing of a nude woman. [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(173,596 posts)20. MaddowBlog-Why the White House's unpersuasive pitch on the 'birthday book' seems so familiar
Republicans had to choose: acknowledge the letter as legitimate or insist that a Trump-signed document wasnt actually a Trump-signed document.
Thereâs an approach to reality that says a Trump-signed document isnât actually a Trump-signed document.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-09T13:13:45.110Z
Itâs the same approach that says job numbers are fake. And polls are fake. And election results are fake. And science is fake. And evidence of crimes is fake. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-jeffrey-epstein-birthday-book-donald-trump-rcna230024
Eight weeks later, the story took a rather dramatic turn. My MSNBC colleague Erum Salam reported on the new batch of material from the Epstein estate released by Democrats on the U.S. House Oversight Committee including the contents of the so-called birthday book. From the report:
The image looks like the one the Journal described in July.
......White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt claimed that its very clear that Trump didnt draw the figure or sign the letter. Other White House officials pushed the same line, and true to form, several congressional Republicans soon followed, echoing the new party line.
At face value, the pushback was and is difficult to take seriously. The signature on the letter resembles other documents from that era that Trump signed.
For that matter, its difficult to imagine how the document in question couldve been fabricated in the first place. As CNNs Aaron Blake summarized, The key fact here is that this comes from Epsteins estate. In other words, for this letter to have been fake, someone would have had to plant it in Epsteins possessions a long time ago, somehow........
Theres a quote thats often attributed to political theorist Hannah Arendt: This constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore. As it happens, Arendt didnt actually say this (at least not exactly), but the quote resonates because of its salience:
Trump obviously tries to get people to believe lies all the time, but nearly as often, the president and his allies try to get people to give up on the idea that facts exist. With too many Americans, these tactics are effective, which helps explain why theyve become so common.
A copy of the book submitted to Congress (which was not reviewed by MSNBC) included a typed message, inside the outline of a womans torso, that read, in part, A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret. At the bottom of the message is a signature that appears to be Donald Trumps.
The image looks like the one the Journal described in July.
......White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt claimed that its very clear that Trump didnt draw the figure or sign the letter. Other White House officials pushed the same line, and true to form, several congressional Republicans soon followed, echoing the new party line.
At face value, the pushback was and is difficult to take seriously. The signature on the letter resembles other documents from that era that Trump signed.
ThAtâa nOt TrUmPâs SiGnAtUrE www.wsj.com/us-news/law/...
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-08T21:38:29.142Z
For that matter, its difficult to imagine how the document in question couldve been fabricated in the first place. As CNNs Aaron Blake summarized, The key fact here is that this comes from Epsteins estate. In other words, for this letter to have been fake, someone would have had to plant it in Epsteins possessions a long time ago, somehow........
Theres a quote thats often attributed to political theorist Hannah Arendt: This constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore. As it happens, Arendt didnt actually say this (at least not exactly), but the quote resonates because of its salience:
Trump obviously tries to get people to believe lies all the time, but nearly as often, the president and his allies try to get people to give up on the idea that facts exist. With too many Americans, these tactics are effective, which helps explain why theyve become so common.
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Ultimate objectification of a person as thing to be used: no identity (head) no arms (resistance).
Bernardo de La Paz
Sep 9
#3
The X-Files had an episode called "Home" that was about as chilling as that sick drawing.
Texin
Sep 9
#17
Now that you brought up that chilling thought, who does own & have jurisdiction over that property?
Hekate
Sep 9
#18
And as if that was not sufficiently perverted for Trump and his kind, there's that $22,000
RVN VET71
Sep 10
#47
MaddowBlog-Why the White House's unpersuasive pitch on the 'birthday book' seems so familiar
LetMyPeopleVote
Sep 9
#20
Trump has just given every male MAGA voter who worries about his young daughter
Aussie105
Sep 10
#44