General Discussion

pipoman

(16,038 posts)

70. "Dogging" (legally) costs money, a lot of it..

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:13 PM

Dec 2012

The SCOTUS determines weapons which can be more heavily regulated or banned based on US v. Miller in 1939. That standard is, "in common use for lawful purposes". The case that "assault weapons" are not "in common use for lawful purposes" is going to be a challenge given the literally millions in private ownership. There are also issues of restriction of enumerated civil liberties/rights without a demonstration that the restriction will have the desired effect which creates a challenge too, one which I believe will effect any restrictions. There is a lot of calls for things which simply can't happen constitutionally. Some things can and likely will happen.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

71 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

OK, ban the AR-15, by shape and color. I'm on board. [View all] Recursion Dec 2012 OP

Bullshit. 99Forever Dec 2012 #1

Huh? Recursion Dec 2012 #2

To actually have any effect. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #3

It's been the #1 selling rifle platform in the US for over a decade.. pipoman Dec 2012 #4

Believe, me I know. It's idiotic. Recursion Dec 2012 #11

An AR-15 ban will pipoman Dec 2012 #21

Well, then, ban them too. calimary Dec 2012 #51

It will take the manufacturer pipoman Dec 2012 #53

So? Why can't we be on them like flypaper? Why can't we be dogging their every step? calimary Dec 2012 #69

"Dogging" (legally) costs money, a lot of it.. pipoman Dec 2012 #70

I think that the discussion is more about... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #5

The national competitions require the standard 20 and 30 round mags. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #25

Great! bongbong Dec 2012 #26

And for local practice??? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #34

Oh Well bongbong Dec 2012 #39

There is a difference between a clip and a magazine jmowreader Dec 2012 #71

Exactly. It's the look of the weapon that causes the problems realgreen Dec 2012 #6

That's right! It's how Pacman caused the obesity epidemic! backscatter712 Dec 2012 #13

Get it right! Indydem Dec 2012 #18

Wouldn't it be neat rrneck Dec 2012 #7

Could it also cover the comparative lethality of being shot by this one or that? Loudly Dec 2012 #8

Google 'youtube gellatin block'. nt rrneck Dec 2012 #9

You know what'd be really super-awesome? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #14

Well, we don't have 800,000 cops on the street to subsidize the doughnut industry. rrneck Dec 2012 #16

Likewise, why are people so terrified of guns??? Indydem Dec 2012 #19

Some don't know anything about them. rrneck Dec 2012 #22

Do you still support the NRA after LaPierre's melt down? morningfog Dec 2012 #23

Sure do. Indydem Dec 2012 #24

You support LaPierre's statements? morningfog Dec 2012 #36

THAT WASN'T YOUR QUESTION! Indydem Dec 2012 #40

It was my question. You dodged it first, then you tried to muddy the water. morningfog Dec 2012 #43

"Do you still support the NRA after LaPierre's melt down" Indydem Dec 2012 #44

Another dodge. Do you suppot LaPierre's statements? morningfog Dec 2012 #46

I support it more than I support gun grabs. Indydem Dec 2012 #47

Amazing. And the mental illness list? morningfog Dec 2012 #48

If it is balanced with civil liberties in mind, sure. Indydem Dec 2012 #49

Help me out. In what way "don't [you] support much of what NRA leadership does or says?" morningfog Dec 2012 #50

Well, for one, I don't support attacks on the President. Indydem Dec 2012 #52

Turn that around Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #27

I have a multitude of reasons to have a firearms that are not related to self defense. Indydem Dec 2012 #30

Not really, no Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #32

If I owned a full auto weapon prior to 1934 Indydem Dec 2012 #35

Actually, yeah, it is. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #42

You've missed the point. Indydem Dec 2012 #54

No, you've missed the point Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #55

I can buy dynamite Indydem Dec 2012 #56

"With a federal license" Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #57

No background for long guns? Indydem Dec 2012 #58

Really I think it's even simpler than that Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #60

Well Hell's Bells Indydem Dec 2012 #61

They kill lots of people bongbong Dec 2012 #28

Really? In what statistical world do you live in? Indydem Dec 2012 #31

LOL bongbong Dec 2012 #37

Tens of billions of rounds of ammuniton are produced and fired every year. Indydem Dec 2012 #41

I'll take it. Robb Dec 2012 #10

It's a start Recursion Dec 2012 #17

I'm not concerned with the appearance of the gun. I'm concerned with what comes out of the barrel. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #12

That's my inclination, too, and on further consideration I'm wrong Recursion Dec 2012 #15

Here we go again, the old RW argument that NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #20

The magazines were never actually banned pipoman Dec 2012 #29

*sigh* As I said, they were banned BUT NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #38

By declaring constitutional pipoman Dec 2012 #45

The AWB, as an effective concept, failed because OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #59

So almost all handguns? Most rifles? Even a 10/22 Plinking gun? Indydem Dec 2012 #63

The only thing that makes an "assault weapon" effective as an assault weapon is OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #66

Rec'd BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #33

if i spray paint donco Dec 2012 #62

SKS? I assume you meant AKs ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #64

So you want to GOVERN IRRATIONALLY? ROFLMAO! nt jody Dec 2012 #65

This thread theKed Dec 2012 #67

But this one is cute! sofa king Dec 2012 #68