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-misanthroptimist

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68. Doesn't change my point, really, does it?

Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:59 PM

Nov 21

Those countries do have mixed economies, but as you point out, that includes socialism. The very socialism that our House condemned this very day. If we accept that condemnation then we are saying some evil is okay. Of course, the "horrors" associated with socialism isn't socialism at all. It was and is despotism. And that's what those countries lack. That is why they are happy. Economically, they have something approaching decency while retaining democracy.

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House votes 285-98 to denounce 'horrors' of socialism ahead of Mamdani-Trump meeting [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Nov 21 OP

Why do Democrats Mad_Machine76 Nov 21 #1

I Guess to Remind Us That Idiocy Does Not Scrupulously Observe the D-R Divide and Can The Roux Comes First Nov 21 #9

I blame the Jewish Space Lasers Stacey Grove Nov 21 #46

Democrats have bought into GOP performance art since losing in 1984. nt Gore1FL Nov 21 #28

those dems do not represent me mike_c Nov 21 #29

Eighty-six Democrats join in mental masturbation HAB911 Nov 21 #2

Right? Especially knowing that fellow Dem Mamdani is meeting with Trump today. Incanus Nov 21 #16

K now do fascism. And capitalism. SSJVegeta Nov 21 #3

LOL Here's the list leftstreet Nov 21 #4

Hakeem Jeffries of course choie Nov 21 #11

Such leadership! leftstreet Nov 21 #19

A tactical masterstroke nt mr715 Nov 21 #33

Denouncing the Khmer Rouge! leftstreet Nov 21 #47

F--- policy, period. mr715 Nov 21 #48

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I say, to see Henry Cuellar on that list Rob H. Nov 21 #39

Yep, my MAGA wing Dem congress waman sold out as usual. Ping Tung Nov 21 #17

Glad to not see Delaware on that list. woodsprite Nov 21 #30

Revealing beyond words. JCA Passages Nov 21 #79

I don't have a problem with Democrats voting for this. tritsofme Nov 21 #5

Why not? leftstreet Nov 21 #8

Why would I? Seems like a perfectly reasonable vote for these Democrats. tritsofme Nov 21 #14

Sure will bring back those Biden voters! leftstreet Nov 21 #18

Post removed Post removed Nov 21 #35

It is absolutely ridiculous. choie Nov 21 #13

Horrors like Social Security, Medicare, MedicAid, no_hypocrisy Nov 21 #6

Looks that way. I believe we have a Emile Nov 21 #23

All programs that Trump wants dead and gone. Lancero Nov 21 #50

Hope it mentions corporate socialism in particular! nt intrepidity Nov 21 #7

My very pale blue congresswoman voted for the new Red Scare. Ping Tung Nov 21 #10

So did mine... regnaD kciN Nov 21 #61

We're in the same state but diferent CD. Ping Tung Nov 21 #74

Even Michael Steele last night said . . . peggysue2 Nov 21 #12

Because they're scared of their shadow. choie Nov 21 #15

I'm thinking Swing Districts for the UPcoming Cha Nov 21 #58

Republicans are desperate to find an issue SocialDemocrat61 Nov 21 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Nov 21 #20

Their position is to play it safe and do a lot of flag waving and tell everyone that they're REAL Ping Tung Nov 21 #26

Dems had better bring up a bill on JBTaurus83 Nov 21 #21

Democratic Socialism as referenced by people like Bernie and Mandami is actually social democracy. walkingman Nov 21 #22

Oh, no! Not socialism! Someone might go to the library, a public school, mail a letter, ride a bus. Solly Mack Nov 21 #24

They might get to go the doctor or eat every day! mr715 Nov 21 #34

The stuff of nightmares! Solly Mack Nov 21 #71

What an idiotic vote. Don't these clowns have anything better to do? Borogove Nov 21 #25

But fascism is just fine Orrex Nov 21 #27

Obviously, they have spiffy uniforms. nt mr715 Nov 21 #36

Oh brother Fiendish Thingy Nov 21 #31

Here are the 98 Nay Dem votes and the 27 non voting Dem plus the 2 Dems who voted 'Present' Celerity Nov 21 #55

Sorry but the thing that attacked Maxine Waters Blue Full Moon Nov 21 #32

Embarrassing stuff Prairie Gates Nov 21 #37

Now you know who "to primary." DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 21 #38

Shame on any Dem who voted Yea. They play right into RW framing. Here is the text of this asinine bill: Celerity Nov 21 #40

OMG I wish I hadn't read that leftstreet Nov 21 #43

That is a hard-right screed misanthrope Nov 21 #49

+1 leftstreet Nov 21 #51

The Democratic Representatives should ALL have voted 'Present' 70sEraVet Nov 21 #60

Based on this list of examples, the TSF regime should be facing imminent collapse LearnedHand Nov 21 #69

What idiot wrote that screed?. Autumn Nov 21 #73

They seem to have nothing better to do C_U_L8R Nov 21 #41

So, is Congress finally holding Civics or Political economics classes for their Members? haele Nov 21 #42

When will they denounce the horrors of Predatory Capitalism? Emile Nov 21 #44

Oh, no! -misanthroptimist Nov 21 #45

To be fair misanthrope Nov 21 #53

Doesn't change my point, really, does it? -misanthroptimist Nov 21 #68

I hate votes like this regardless of the subject KLK1972 Nov 21 #52

Huzzah! misanthrope Nov 21 #57

WTF? 86 Ds voted with the Rs in favor of this? KPN Nov 21 #54

They don't want to talk about their policies for helping people on affordability on groceries, housing, healthcare, everyonematters Nov 21 #56

It's not a hill to die on. RandySF Nov 21 #59

HORRORS???? elleng Nov 21 #62

WTF????? Sewage. Dems should have walked out. 58Sunliner Nov 21 #63

All government jobs and The Wizard Nov 21 #64

Please tell me I'm having a nightmare or fever dream LearnedHand Nov 21 #65

Ignorant vote put forth by ignoramuses. Democratic socialism is NOT Marxist/Communist socialism. CousinIT Nov 21 #66

Most of these idiots couldn't define socialism Picaro Nov 21 #70

You think that Jim Clyburn, Hakeem Jeffries, Ted Lieu, Gregory Meeks, & Debby Wasserman-Schutz are idiots? MichMan Nov 21 #72

Seems like it. Or was this just a slap in the face to Mamdani ? Centrist's certainly despise Autumn Nov 22 #80

Do these idiots have any clue what socialism actually is? Initech Nov 21 #75

Do Trumpsters really denounce socialism? Not if there is money in it for them. Norrrm Nov 21 #76

Idiotic nonsense. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 21 #77

What the f*** are they voting on and why Tribetime Nov 21 #78