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highplainsdem

(59,275 posts)
24. Just noticed your reply here. Despite your silly contempt for intellectual property, it exists. AI models
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 11:21 AM
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trained on intellectual property without permission were trained illegally, and using them (unless under duress, forced to by school or work) is unethical.

Nothing produced by generative AI was actually created by the AI user, any more than someone made an item they shopped for online with keywords, or cooked a meal ordered in a restaurant. It's an illusion of creativity enabled by the theft of the world's intellectual property - the AI robber barons' exploitation of the real knowledge and skills of real people, stolen to offer to AI users so they can pretend to have knowledge and skills they don't have.

Anyone who's ever used genAI knows it can generate quite different results from identical prompts. Image generators typically offer four simultaneous options from a single prompt, options that can look very different. The user didn't create any of them. AI users do have the power of choice when that AI regurgitates something for them that may or may not be close to what they'd envisioned. But so do shoppers. And choosing among things you didn't create isn't creativity or artistry.

Anyone creating real music, through instruments or voice, is much more of a real musician than anyone prompting AI to exploit real musicians' stolen work.

No one who cares about real music should give any support to the travesty that is AI music.

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"And Musk created AI in His own image..." Midnight Writer Nov 25 #1
If if was going to happen in any genre, it would be Christian music. maxsolomon Nov 25 #2
The aesthetic that appreciates (modern) Christian music is a perfect fit for artificiality. harumph Nov 25 #3
How many purchases makes #1 on the Christian & Gospel Hot 100? maxsolomon Nov 25 #5
You'd be surprised. It's extremely popular. Wiz Imp Nov 26 #13
Blegh maxsolomon Nov 26 #20
I don't care for it either, but it does have a sizable audience... Wiz Imp Nov 26 #22
Try Byzantine liturgical chants, instead. Aristus Tuesday #28
What is so offensive about AI generated music? anciano Nov 25 #4
Many of us old people are hung up on authenticity. maxsolomon Nov 25 #6
Music used to be an expression of the human condition. Scrivener7 Nov 25 #7
OK Cirsium Nov 25 #9
Cool 😎.... anciano Nov 25 #11
IMO people using AI to write posts for a message board should be kicked off. It's fraud, if not highplainsdem Nov 26 #17
Seriously? Music is about creativity. There is no creativity involved in AI generated music Wiz Imp Nov 26 #14
Was that written by one of Google's AI tools? Those are also trained illegally on stolen intellectual highplainsdem Nov 26 #18
Because all AI is trained off stolen material pinkstarburst Nov 26 #15
What is NOT offensive about AI music generators being trained illegally on stolen intellectual property? highplainsdem Nov 26 #16
I prefer AI gen music over 95% of modern Popslop. Hellbound Hellhound Nov 26 #21
Thanks for your reply ..... anciano Nov 26 #23
It's the most harmful non-weapon tech ever developed, for a variety of reasons. highplainsdem Tuesday #25
Just noticed your reply here. Despite your silly contempt for intellectual property, it exists. AI models highplainsdem Tuesday #24
What is coming is... kwolf68 Tuesday #30
Because tonkatoy8888 Tuesday #26
I don't think the perception taken is one of 'offense', merely 'emptiness.' Torchlight Tuesday #27
It diminishes market opportunities Dave says Tuesday #31
Probably more "humanity" than most CCM nowadays... regnaD kciN Nov 25 #8
Can it be played backwards for Satan's message? Norrrm Nov 25 #10
How can they tell the difference? Human-generated Christian Contemporary is wallpaper paste on a good day. hatrack Nov 25 #12
This guy has been doing a lot of videos on this phenomenon recently. Crunchy Frog Nov 26 #19
Last month, an AI generated tune hit some top spots on the country charts as well Torchlight Tuesday #29
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