Thanks. It's a game to distract Americans from the real issues of imports and their impact (Reply #104)

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Tue Jan 1, 2013, 05:33 PM

JDPriestly (57,936 posts)

104. Thanks. It's a game to distract Americans from the real issues of imports and their impact

on jobs and as a result impact on wages and ultimately on tax revenues.

It's a daisy chain of bad policies that lead to financial ruin.

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Robert Reich : The deal emerging from the Senate is a lousy one. Let me count the ways: [View all]	Coyotl	Jan 2013	OP
Exactly. A shitty deal for America. No doubt about it. This is not a victory for our side.	bowens43	Jan 2013	#1
This is not a victory for our side.	AlbertCat	Jan 2013	#14
If there had been a period for public comments, this wouldn't have passed.	limpyhobbler	Jan 2013	#2
That's a good point.	senseandsensibility	Jan 2013	#3
This, clearly by DESIGN. Then, in the "debt ceiling fight", SS - and everything we hold dear - will	chimpymustgo	Jan 2013	#6
"How does that keep happening?" -- Dems and Rape-publi-scum are both	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2013	#25
Yeah, but those 20% are already too poor to matter and many of them won't live	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#60
Thank you. A lot of people don't want to admit this, but it is very true.	Puregonzo1188	Jan 2013	#101
Exactly..	sendero	Jan 2013	#114
So right. Many of us were irate	Jack Sprat	Jan 2013	#50
We DON'T Hold All the Cards	AndyTiedye	Jan 2013	#126
"How does that keep happening," indeed.	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#131
In the middle of the night, at the last minute while everybody was out partying.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2013	#12
How fucking crazy is it that our best hope to make things better lies with the hope	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#57
This is our reality. I'm stunned that more here refuse to SEE it.	chimpymustgo	Jan 2013	#83
And if they do...	Marr	Jan 2013	#155
yeah totally "last minute"	pasto76	Jan 2013	#39
By design. Our democracy is a circus.	geckosfeet	Jan 2013	#58
Exactly - when I first saw	xxqqqzme	Jan 2013	#93
A moderate Republican won the election	UnrepentantLiberal	Jan 2013	#98
+1 n/t	area51	Jan 2013	#140
That's become standard operating procedure now, I've noticed.	Marr	Jan 2013	#154
yeah they were able to avoid any public debate on the bill before voting on it.	limpyhobbler	Jan 2013	#159
K&R'd!!	snot	Jan 2013	#4
Reich just wanted a pony.	vi5	Jan 2013	#5
More than that. The pony had to be brilliant white with pink mane and glitter.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2013	#11
And one farting rainbows all day.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2013	#21
Sensible woodchucks know how to deal with Dr.Reich.	Jackpine Radical	Jan 2013	#33
This doesn't make sense	ProSense	Jan 2013	#7
I'm glad you're feeling better and back up to speed PS. You didn't seem to be yourself yesterday.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2013	#10
heh.	SammyWinstonJack	Jan 2013	#43
I don't think Robert Reich gives a shit as long as	Cha	Jan 2013	#110
I actually know Mr. Reich.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2013	#111
I don't have an analysis.. I'm glad there are those who are	Cha	Jan 2013	#113
"I don't have an analysis."	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2013	#118
Yes, I'm sure you are. I know I trust VP Biden, Senator Bernie Sanders,	Cha	Jan 2013	#120
That's nice.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2013	#128
it sure is	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#136
What I would have liked to witness, at the very least,	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2013	#162
What does Robert Reich know about anything? Pshaw, pshaw.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jan 2013	#8
Repeat often:	AlbertCat	Jan 2013	#9
What about the long-term unemployed. What would have happened to them then?	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2013	#23
My long-term UI benefits were abruptly ended on May 12, 2012 when California blithely	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2013	#28
That, unfortunately, is typical for them. They couldn't care less when you are in trouble,	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#44
That is your response? That poster probably doesnt even live in California and cannot vote there	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#61
With a screen name like 'BlueCaliDem'??? OK, but I just love it when	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2013	#105
One of the reasons that I am so disgusted with the long, long discussion about the fiscal	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#92
That was the purpose of creating this artificial crisis. Keep the sheeple scared and distracted	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#99
Thanks. It's a game to distract Americans from the real issues of imports and their impact	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#104
And a quick glance at GD page 1 shows how devastatingly effective it is.	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#112
Agreed.	Chathamization	Jan 2013	#100
The same thing that might still happen.	enlightenment	Jan 2013	#29
What would have happened to them then?	AlbertCat	Jan 2013	#59
How about you get off yours first?	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2013	#134
Do you even think before you post?	AlbertCat	Jan 2013	#137
Something could be worked out soon after the clift.	wisteria	Jan 2013	#70
They don't matter to anyone who won't create a jobs program.	jtuck004	Jan 2013	#75
So true.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#94
+1 Everyone's already forgotten last years 99ers	leftstreet	Jan 2013	#153
I wish Third Way types would stop hiding behind Unemployment Benefits.	Marr	Jan 2013	#158
I wished EmoProgs/Libertarians would stop trying to burn down the village to save it	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2013	#166
Ooh-- "EmoProg", "purist", AND an accusation of not voting for Obama all in one paragraph!	Marr	Jan 2013	#167
Why do we want to restore military spending?	Puregonzo1188	Jan 2013	#102
It's really about preventing cuts to military spending.	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#148
K & R, one party rule for the next 4 years, because we celebrate crumbs &	mother earth	Jan 2013	#13
^^^^this^^^^	me b zola	Jan 2013	#91
"quickly offer legislation that grants a middle-class tax cut and restores most military spending.."	alcibiades_mystery	Jan 2013	#15
Cut military spending in half and we will all be safer!	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#97
no, actially, he said "A" middle class tax cut	hfojvt	Jan 2013	#138
I agree with him,	wisteria	Jan 2013	#16
Robert Reich is there to lull the GOP into thinking they got more than they did....	WCGreen	Jan 2013	#17
5. The Bush Tax Cuts and Big War are the Main Drivers of the Deficit. This protects War	grahamhgreen	Jan 2013	#18
+1000 nt	abelenkpe	Jan 2013	#19
We should have	nineteen50	Jan 2013	#20
K and R - I agree with Reich (and Krugman).	NRaleighLiberal	Jan 2013	#22
Krugman doesn't believe President Obama could have gotten a better deal	ProSense	Jan 2013	#32
Ronald Reagan Post Office	reteachinwi	Jan 2013	#48
I think I'd rather we just went over the damn cliff already.	CanonRay	Jan 2013	#24
Neither Reich nor Krugman provide any strategy for how a better deal	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#26
Um, the cliff was and is a better deal than what has been negotiated (so far) in the	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2013	#34
The Congress is responsible for negotiating and how do you negotiate with thugs?	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#36
"Going over the clff" (or better yet, stepping off the curb) would have meant	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2013	#106
I think Labor Secretary Reich knows how governance works	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2013	#35
I teach political science at the college level, and while I think I'm a fine professor	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#41
So the only people qualified to speak about governance	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2013	#45
No, not necessarily, but don't we want to seek solutions? If the complaint is	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#49
When the next Congress convenes, we'll have more seats in the House	MessiahRp	Jan 2013	#139
"a middle-class tax cut and restores most military spending" - which is what this achieves	muriel_volestrangler	Jan 2013	#27
Yes, the deal was not great. Yes, the deal will be replayed in	plethoro	Jan 2013	#30
A $5 million threshhold on the inheritance tax doesn't maintain "dynasties"	starroute	Jan 2013	#31
Leave it to some Ds to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#37
Some people know how to tap into	underthematrix	Jan 2013	#65
kick	WashingtonConsensus	Jan 2013	#38
Caved again	4dsc	Jan 2013	#40
Tell me how YOU would get a better deal through the House. Pleas be specific.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#42
The importance of not making the deals that led directly to the "cliff" this one, and the next and	TheKentuckian	Jan 2013	#55
OK, maybe you would be willing to lose those benefits, but why subject others	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#63
Why Won't The Obama Team Listen To This Man???	supercats	Jan 2013	#46
Maybe they do listen to him but he offers no way for his ideas to get through Congress	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#51
He speaks about helping us out, but really, what has he done to help us out?	wisteria	Jan 2013	#68
Trading temporary tax cuts and UI benefits for a permanent 64% tax cut and a $4M per family gift	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#47
The uber-wealthy in America	TM99	Jan 2013	#133
You misunderstand what I wrote. This deal, should it happen, sucks in so many ways	Egalitarian Thug	Jan 2013	#135
I understood	TM99	Jan 2013	#144
+1	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#145
Like both sides were saying, nobody was going to like it all. I'm very happy with some	gateley	Jan 2013	#52
Reich is right. (nt)	DirkGently	Jan 2013	#53
DON'T restore most military cuts.	spooky3	Jan 2013	#54
Cut defense in half to make the world a safer place!	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#127
Agreed. I think I would have preferred the cliff. But it still has to be voted on in the house.	geckosfeet	Jan 2013	#56
Reich is losing me on this one. $5 million exemption for inheritance is fair.	Zen Democrat	Jan 2013	#62
This is a completely irrational viewpoint, particularly understanding who we are dealing with here.	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#64
"every Democrat/Liberal/Progressive should be toasting it and cheering"	limpyhobbler	Jan 2013	#103
It also repeals a part of the ACA.	Savannahmann	Jan 2013	#66
You understand that CLASS was problematic from the start, right?	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#69
Yes, because it's expensive to care for the disabled	Savannahmann	Jan 2013	#80
Everything you just said is besides the point. CLASS was NEVER going to go into effect. It needed to	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#82
So as I said, fuck the disabled.	Savannahmann	Jan 2013	#124
No, now you are changing your tune. If you really care about the disabled...	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#152
We lost nothing?	Savannahmann	Jan 2013	#156
We did NOT have the CLASS act. As many of us have been trying to tell you.That was DOA two years ago	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#160
Was it or was it not part of the ACA which was passed by Congress and signed into law?	Savannahmann	Jan 2013	#161
For all intents and purposes, no, it was not part of ACA. nt	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#163
Really?	Savannahmann	Jan 2013	#164
Really. An unworkable provision is no provision at all. nt	stevenleser	Jan 2013	#165
The CLASS Act has been gone. Why are you parroting the RW on this?	Zen Democrat	Jan 2013	#73
Weak kneed again?	Raggaemon	Jan 2013	#67
because the truth is the democratic party is corrupt	fascisthunter	Jan 2013	#72
That seems to	NorthCarolina	Jan 2013	#89
And that about sums it up.	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#141
+1	Marr	Jan 2013	#168
Why did I know that this would happen??	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#71
because you, me, and many other independent minded posters aren't suckers	fascisthunter	Jan 2013	#76
Or just a natural cynic	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#85
Thanks for the laugh....	whistler162	Jan 2013	#95
Oh gee Really, we are now?	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#146
nope... you just aren't that clever	fascisthunter	Jan 2013	#169
I know!	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#142
GOP negotiating strength much stronger than warranted merely because the left ignores RW radio	certainot	Jan 2013	#74
Arguing over the fiscal cliff	sulphurdunn	Jan 2013	#77
the republicans have exposed themselves as entitlement killers	lovuian	Jan 2013	#78
Unfortunately, more than just "the republicans" have been exposed. nt	NorthCarolina	Jan 2013	#90
No way the GOP would cave in on the debt ceiling now	creeksneakers2	Jan 2013	#79
Holy Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Batman!	gulliver	Jan 2013	#81
K&R nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Jan 2013	#84
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The legislation does NOT "make the bush tax cuts permanent."	stopbush	Jan 2013	#87
Social Security and other similar programs for most of us are still on the line.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#88
Wake Up, Folks! The less they take from the super-duper rich,	MsPithy	Jan 2013	#96
Robert Reich lives in a fantasy land...	Drunken Irishman	Jan 2013	#107
you	heaven05	Jan 2013	#157
The House is irrelevant now.	Coyotl	Jan 2013	#108
Cheer up. The GOP house hates it too, so probably won't pass it.	magical thyme	Jan 2013	#109
Amazing ....	humbled_opinion	Jan 2013	#115
It's a great deal!	AAO	Jan 2013	#116
Post removed	Post removed	Jan 2013	#117
yes, those groupies are indeed sickening	Skittles	Jan 2013	#121
Money talks. The Wealthy always win and will continue to do so until we the	sabrina 1	Jan 2013	#119
I wanted a unicorn that farted glitter damn it!!	LW1977	Jan 2013	#122
Kick.	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#123
My Senator, Michael Bennet, a Democrat, voted NO	mountain grammy	Jan 2013	#125
Good for him. n/t	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#149
Read the article. This deal, overall, obscenely favors the rich.	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#129
Why isn’t Obama demanding corporate welfare cuts? $2.6 trillion without touching Safety Net!	KoKo	Jan 2013	#130
That's an interesting link	muriel_volestrangler	Jan 2013	#150
Here's the beef:	Doctor_J	Jan 2013	#132
uh oh, another "extreme far leftist" criticizing obama. nt	tomp	Jan 2013	#143
When will he learn he is irrelevant	Leopolds Ghost	Jan 2013	#147
du rec. nt	xchrom	Jan 2013	#151

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