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In reply to the discussion: NBC News: RFK Jr: 'Very convincing' evidence that JFK wasn't killed by lone gunman [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)41. Well, we get to hear from an eyewitness what Attorney General Kennedy thought.
We learned what his father said he really thought about the Warren Commission, a "shoddy piece of craftsmanship."
We also learned his father connected Ruby's telephone calls to organized crime leaders, many of whom were targets of FBI investigators and wondered if his work leading the Department of Justice may've led to the assassination of his brother.
Here's some Old News most Americans, including DUers, don't know: The CIA was doing business with organized crime in order to kill Fidel Castro and who knows what else -- a secret association that began in 1960, when Dulles was DCI and Nixon VP.
How the CIA Enlisted the Chicago Mob to Put a Hit on Castro
Ever wonder about the sanity of America's leaders? Take a close look at perhaps the most bizarre plot in U.S. intelligence history
By Bryan Smith
Chicago Magazine
November 2007
(page 4 of 6)
EXCERPT...
By September 1960, the project was proceeding apace. Roselli would report directly to Maheu. The first step was a meeting in New York. There, at the Plaza Hotel, Maheu introduced Roselli to O'Connell. The agent wanted to cover up the participation of the CIA, so he pretended to be a man named Jim Olds who represented a group of wealthy industrialists eager to get rid of Castro so they could get back in business.
"We may know some people," Roselli said. Several weeks later, they all met at the Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami. For years, the luxurious facility had served as the unofficial headquarters for Mafioso leaders seeking a base close to their gambling interests in Cuba. Now, it would be the staging area for the assassination plots.
At a meeting in one of the suites, Roselli introduced Maheu to two men: Sam Gold and a man Roselli referred to as Joe, who could serve as a courier to Cuba. By this time, Roselli was on to O'Connell. "I'm not kidding," Roselli told the agent one day. "I know who you work for. But I'm not going to ask you to confirm it."
Roselli may have figured out that he was dealing with the CIA, but neither Maheu nor O'Connell realized the rank of mobsters with whom they were dealing. That changed when Maheu picked up a copy of the Sunday newspaper supplement Parade, which carried an article laying out the FBI's ten most wanted criminals. Leading the list was Sam Giancana, a.k.a. "Mooney," a.k.a. "Momo," a.k.a. "Sam the Cigar," a Chicago godfather who was one of the most feared dons in the countryand the man who called himself Sam Gold. "Joe" was also on the list. His real name, however, was Santos Trafficantethe outfit's Florida and Cuba chieftain.
Maheu alerted O'Connell. "My God, look what we're involved with," Maheu said. O'Connell told his superiors. Questioned later before the 1975 U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (later nicknamed the Church Committee after its chairman, Frank Church, the Democratic senator from Idaho), O'Connell was asked whether there had ever been any discussion about asking two men on the FBI's most wanted list to carry out a hit on a foreign leader.
"Not with me there wasn't," O'Connell answered.
"And obviously no one said stopand you went ahead."
"Yes."
"Did it bother you at all?"
"No," O'Connell answered, "it didn't."
CONTINUED...
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/November-2007/How-the-CIA-Enlisted-the-Chicago-Mob-to-Put-a-Hit-on-Castro/index.php?cparticle=4&siarticle=3
Gee. Organized crime in bed with the nation's spy agency for a secret assassination program. What could go wrong?
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NBC News: RFK Jr: 'Very convincing' evidence that JFK wasn't killed by lone gunman [View all]
NewsCenter28
Jan 2013
OP
I think there are conspiracy wackos, but the people who deny all conspiracies are even more wacko
Bjorn Against
Jan 2013
#40
You can disagree with someone without being shitty, you know--calling the poster a "rotting stump"
MADem
Jan 2013
#78
No, they don't, and RFK Jr is an ex-smackhead who also believes that vaccines cause autism
Spider Jerusalem
Jan 2013
#23
Wow. The guy you called 'Smackhead' puts together a controversial report on vaccines...
Octafish
Jan 2013
#35
Address the results of neutron activation analysis and trajectory reconstruction then.
Spider Jerusalem
Jan 2013
#42
Advances in forensic science have revealed both of your contentions to be wrong.
Octafish
Jan 2013
#44
So you have to wait ''years'' for me to explain that fraction of the Zapruder film, William Seger?
Octafish
Jan 2013
#137
So a fellow Democrat-one whose family has sacrificed so much for this nation-is a 'conspiracy kook'?
Octafish
Jan 2013
#50
Again you smear Mark Lane, zappaman, meaning you were only feigning ignorance.
Octafish
Jan 2013
#121
The lack of physical evidence contradicting the conclusions of the Warren Report is not surprising
JDPriestly
Jan 2013
#105
"wishful thinking" that the "magic bullet" explanation would be believed - a convoluted theory. n/t
AnotherMother4Peace
Jan 2013
#17
Not true. There have been multiple confessions and a growing mountain of evidence.
alberg
Jan 2013
#56
People love the fun of thinking it was a huge cover up. More fun than the truth.
Logical
Jan 2013
#57
Try this -- How is JFK hit from the front as they drive AWAY from the book depository ?
KurtNYC
Jan 2013
#140
This means RFK would have conducted a different investigation if he had become President
Welcome_hubby
Jan 2013
#10
And the nuts love thinking it was a a cover up. Like 911, etc. People love stories. Not the truth.
Logical
Jan 2013
#60
The level of competition between organized elites is much higher than generally believed
FarCenter
Jan 2013
#25
Well, we get to hear from an eyewitness what Attorney General Kennedy thought.
Octafish
Jan 2013
#41
I was quite young when Evers, JFK, MLK, RFK and others were murdered. This is a painful subject.
freshwest
Jan 2013
#96
The existence of posters that disagree with the OP is evidence that the conspiracy is correct?
cpwm17
Jan 2013
#136