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TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
36. My experience (long)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:10 AM
Feb 2013

I'm a part time balloon twister and magician but mainly balloon twister. Working for tips at restaurants is normally part of the job because it's a way to hand out your card to get birthday parties. I started in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which many of you know is full of religiously insane people. It's not necessarily all Christians that are bad - just the really crazy kind like you had there. I had a close relationship with the magic stores there (both owned by good Christians), and while they both looked forward to Halloween (both also had costumes), one mentioned to me the downside was all the churches were doing Harvest Parties instead of Halloween Parties in order to turn the holiday into a more church oriented one, and the bigwigs in the churches would come and look for non-spooky (because spooky = Satanic to churches who do freakin' Harvest parties) costumes and novelties to buy/rent and ALWAYS expect a discount because they were churches. The worst offender actually did spooky stuff... "GUTS Church," (cuz it takes guts to love Jesus), did a Hell House where you walked through spooky rooms like a normal Haunted House but all the rooms depict things like homosexuals burning in hell or the devil appearing to a woman about to get an abortion. I went through it once. It was interesting, and I pissed a few workers off accidentally.

That conversation happened fairly soon in my "career," and I started noticing it so when church people started asking me how much I charged, I would tell them my special Church rates were $X per hour... where $X was my normal rate, and technically it was true. I mentioned this on a balloon twisters forum and earned the ire of a big name twister (yes, we have famous twisters who put out tutorial DVDs), and I told him once they start acting like Christians and rendering unto Caesar maybe I'll give them a discount the next time.

The first time I worked outside of Tulsa was Oklahoma City. It was for an Indoor Fun Fair, which I also had worked for the previous weekend in Tulsa. Tips were soooooo much better I couldn't believe it. I'm now in Kansas City, and tips are even better than either Tulsa or OKC.

The following link is a site that unfortunately is no longer updated, but the archives are still there. Basically, it was a place for restaurant servers to come complain (and sometimes rave) about working as servers. There are two relevant stories to find on the page. Do a search for Christians, and you'll find them, and you'll see that it's not just that pastor who's a problem.

http://stainedapron.com/misc.htm

TlalocW

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Many, many years ago Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #1
Some years back the Southern Baptists had their convention in San Antonio hobbit709 Feb 2013 #7
And the mayor Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #10
completely correct Heddi Feb 2013 #64
I can verify everything you said. ReRe Feb 2013 #11
Precisely Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #14
Gotta love those tracts pokerfan Feb 2013 #106
Indeed Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #107
k/r marmar Feb 2013 #2
mornin! xchrom Feb 2013 #3
Morning xchrom.....It's a bit early for me!!! marmar Feb 2013 #4
the damn dogs got me up. xchrom Feb 2013 #5
Some business can't wait until the sun comes up. marmar Feb 2013 #6
lol -- i guess so...nt xchrom Feb 2013 #8
In general the tithe (contribution) to exboyfil Feb 2013 #9
The secular equivalent would be... nxylas Feb 2013 #12
'cause fuck art, right? (nt) harmonicon Feb 2013 #18
I think it is safe to say aka-chmeee Feb 2013 #20
That's neither here nor there. harmonicon Feb 2013 #22
Can you truly be generous if you are using OPM? dkf Feb 2013 #53
A necessary evil Dash87 Feb 2013 #103
I guess nxylas Feb 2013 #105
Exactly! LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #40
Is it charity if you benefit? KatyMan Feb 2013 #67
Not to mention the expectation of a heavenly reward. yardwork Feb 2013 #78
Excellent post, completely agree with you n/t KatyMan Feb 2013 #94
Completely agree LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #97
Any server knows that super-religious people are cheap and stingy. mwb970 Feb 2013 #13
Cheap, Or modrepub Feb 2013 #21
Barbara Ehrenreich had the same experience when she did research for "Nickeled and Dimed": Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #44
Love the penguins... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #74
Thanks. It's real as far as I know. It's been floating around Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #90
I've always wanted to go to Antarctica to see the penguins... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #92
Bloomberg and Mother Jones blew the lid off Rmoney's "charity" giving Major Nikon Feb 2013 #100
Back when I attended church SemperEadem Feb 2013 #15
what those restaurants need to do SemperEadem Feb 2013 #16
I agree sort of BigD_95 Feb 2013 #17
And until then, you need to tip like a champ. Iggo Feb 2013 #38
As a former waiter, I disagree with the idea that churchgoers are the worst tippers dr.strangelove Feb 2013 #19
That whole incident speaks to a general entitlement complex I've seen in these God people. pink-o Feb 2013 #23
This doesn't prove that at all mythology Feb 2013 #24
Gee, a Christian-bashing thread. What a shock. (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #25
i was raised churched and i am a church goin christian today. xchrom Feb 2013 #26
It most certainly is. Nine Feb 2013 #27
how about accept the criticism and REFLECT on it. xchrom Feb 2013 #29
What makes you think I'm a Christian? Nine Feb 2013 #31
No, they're bad tippers and often uncaring about anyone outside of their narrow worldview catbyte Feb 2013 #30
Then start a thread on bad tippers. Or about the convention of tipping itself. Nine Feb 2013 #32
This IS a thread about bad tippers. Iggo Feb 2013 #39
Look at the thread title again. Nine Feb 2013 #41
Yeah, I see that. Iggo Feb 2013 #45
Would you object if someone started a thread about how Mexicans are bad tippers? Nine Feb 2013 #47
Why don't you start one and let's see. Iggo Feb 2013 #49
Why would I do that? And why would you want me to? Nine Feb 2013 #51
I misread your subject line. Iggo Feb 2013 #58
Apology accepted. (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #66
OK, I looked again NoGOPZone Feb 2013 #50
Wow, you are really tying yourself up in knots to defend the indefensible. Nine Feb 2013 #54
Maybe if you'd come up with some actual evidence to support NoGOPZone Feb 2013 #57
Evidence? The thread is its own evidence. Nine Feb 2013 #76
I've already replaced a reference to Christians in the very OP with a group of YOUR chosing NoGOPZone Feb 2013 #77
So you think it's ok to say black people are rude, stingy, unpleasant, and messy? Nine Feb 2013 #98
No, I think it's OK to say that it's a myth that Christians are more generous than non Christians NoGOPZone Feb 2013 #99
How am I being bigoted? I have PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with after-church cheapskates catbyte Feb 2013 #60
So you're saying it's not bigotry because you believe it to be true? Nine Feb 2013 #68
So you're just trolling for fun. Ugh. catbyte Feb 2013 #72
You have an odd definition of trolling. Nine Feb 2013 #73
Looks like a hypocrite bashing thread to me. nt Zorra Feb 2013 #37
The thread title refers to "Christians," not "hypocrites." Do you equate the two? (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #43
Christian bashing. cordelia Feb 2013 #46
boo hoo datasuspect Feb 2013 #71
It's been that way forever. After church was the WORST. And this was the 1970's. catbyte Feb 2013 #28
I was a waitress in a very popular place. None of us liked waiting on church groups. WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #33
Shame on Applebees. Oh and, shame on that pastor! In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #34
Yay. Yet ANOTHER Christian bashing thread. cordelia Feb 2013 #35
Get over yourself catbyte Feb 2013 #61
Might consider taking your own advice. cordelia Feb 2013 #69
The OP, as he pointed out on the thread, is a Christian. trotsky Feb 2013 #75
And? It's still Christian bashing. cordelia Feb 2013 #108
You poor thing. trotsky Feb 2013 #109
My experience (long) TlalocW Feb 2013 #36
What a colossal waste, to give money to a church, unless it goes directly to helping the needy, Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #42
Is there such thing as a group of people that are "good tippers"? hughee99 Feb 2013 #48
I tended bar, I didn't wait tables, which might make a difference LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #65
Smokers. catbyte Feb 2013 #70
+1 Mariana Feb 2013 #93
When I was a waitress long ago, I noticed an inverse relationship between income and tipping. yardwork Feb 2013 #80
My husband's step father is such a cheap ass tightwad Heddi Feb 2013 #87
My former mother in law dated somebody like that for a while. yardwork Feb 2013 #110
I hate going to dinner in a large group... 2theleft Feb 2013 #113
"Why lose your mind when you are a group???" A universal good question. yardwork Feb 2013 #114
former servers tabbycat31 Feb 2013 #83
Poor people Nevernose Feb 2013 #88
I have been told that college alumni Ilsa Feb 2013 #101
They only appear so because ecclesiastical donations count as charity. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #52
Read stories from the Stained Apron LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #55
Good tippers are as unique as truly excellent service I bet. dkf Feb 2013 #56
My dad, ohheckyeah Feb 2013 #59
Your father is earning his place in heaven. yardwork Feb 2013 #81
Yeah, he's a great guy. ohheckyeah Feb 2013 #85
when I was a server long, long ago (1997-2000) Heddi Feb 2013 #62
Oooh oooh. I remember this time this woman made me make her salad from the salad bar! yardwork Feb 2013 #82
YOU had to make HER a salad? Heddi Feb 2013 #86
Ah yes, the bus tour....guess how I handled it? Digit Feb 2013 #104
In defense of non-Baptists OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #63
That's good. It is unfair to paint all church-goers as bad tippers. yardwork Feb 2013 #84
Church offerings are mostly not charity. They are dues to keep the club going. BlueStreak Feb 2013 #79
My Mom & Grandmom (both non-church goers) are awful tippers Heddi Feb 2013 #89
My parents are religious, and they know to leave a proper tip. Wise Child Feb 2013 #102
The Jack Chick tracts! yardwork Feb 2013 #111
Empirical studies show tama Feb 2013 #91
Sort of a misleading headline.... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #95
my wife was a waitress for years and.... madrchsod Feb 2013 #96
I'm a Christian and always tip 20%, tavernier Feb 2013 #112
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