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ProSense

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14. Actually, the only thing more craven is that it passed the Senate with 83 votes
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:32 PM
Feb 2013

I remember the extensive discussion at the time. The President also issued a signing statement rejecting the controversial aspects (he was slammed for that).

One thing is certain given the amount of support this has in Congress, this issue isn't going away based on an executive order or signing statement.

Is the American public willfully ignorant or just ignorant? Or as a friend of mine told me when we were arguing over Mr. O and his policies. “Well, I don’t want to know. I’m happy with my little life and if I know I’ll just be depressed.” Perhaps that’s the same logic the Germans used as Hitler came to power and began systematically stripping away civil liberties and silencing all dissent. I used to wonder how the Germans could remain silent with all that transpired but now see it happening here in the US and I’m truly amazed and pissed off by our complicity in this corruption.

I always confuse President Obama with Hitler.

STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY
S. 3254 – National Defense Authorization Act for FY 2013
(Sen. Levin, D-MI)

The Administration appreciates the Senate Armed Services Committee's continued support for our national defense and supports a large number of the provisions in S. 3254, the National Defense Authorization Act for FY 2013, such as its support for both the base budget and for overseas contingency operations; the Administration's initiative to modernize the military retirement system; and authorities that enhance the Department of Defense's (DOD's) ability to operate in unconventional and irregular warfare, counter unconventional threats, or support contingency or stability operations. However, while there are numerous areas of agreement with the Committee, the Administration has serious concerns with provisions that: (1) depart from the President's FY 2013 Budget request; (2) constrain the ability of the Armed Forces to carry out their missions consistent with the new defense strategy; and (3) limit key authorities of the Executive. If the bill is presented to the President for approval in its current form, the President's senior advisers would recommend that the President veto the bill. The Administration strongly supports the overall goals of this legislation and looks forward to working with the Congress to address these and other concerns, a number of which are outlined in more detail below, and eventually signing this important legislation.

Detainee Matters: The Administration strongly objects to section 1031's restrictions on the use of funds to transfer detainees from the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay to foreign countries. When he signed past versions of this legislation, the President objected to the restrictions carried forward by section 1031, promised to work towards their repeal, and warned the Congress that the restrictions on transferring detainees from Guantanamo Bay to foreign countries would in certain circumstances interfere with constitutional responsibilities committed to the Executive Branch. Since these restrictions have been on the books, they have limited the Executive's ability to manage military operations in an ongoing armed conflict, harmed the country's diplomatic relations with allies and counterterrorism partners, and provided no benefit whatsoever to our national security. The Administration continues to believe that restricting the transfer of detainees to the custody of foreign countries in the context of an ongoing armed conflict interferes with the Executive's ability to make important foreign policy and national security determinations, and would in certain circumstances violate constitutional separation of powers principles. The Administration also continues to oppose the prohibition on funding to construct, acquire or modify a detention facility in the United States to house any individual detained at Guantanamo, which shortsightedly constrains the options available to military and counterterrorism professionals to address evolving threats. The restrictions carried forward by section 1031 were misguided when they were enacted and should not be renewed.

- more -

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/112/saps3254s_20121129.pdf


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huge k/r green for victory Feb 2013 #1
The time is major. MAJOR! Catherina Feb 2013 #6
+100 nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #48
not a single sensible woodchuck amongst them... KG Feb 2013 #2
Not one! ReRe Feb 2013 #24
K&R forestpath Feb 2013 #3
K&R libtodeath Feb 2013 #4
Can't say I'm surprised by the low recs this is receiving Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #5
It should chill every Liberal that the 2 Senators desperate to argue in the hearing = McCain, Graham Catherina Feb 2013 #7
They were not ProSense Feb 2013 #25
McCain & Graham are lawyers? Myrina Feb 2013 #30
No. I was being facetious Catherina Feb 2013 #35
its changed..never to return..what remains the same is the format and ability to discuss and share xiamiam Feb 2013 #10
Let me see... ReRe Feb 2013 #29
It was a passioned response I admit. Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #31
;-) ReRe Feb 2013 #34
A huge thank you to the Plaintiffs - Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2013 #8
there is also a panel discussion on the same day..i googled and found it on you tube xiamiam Feb 2013 #9
Please link it anyway. Maybe we can find a better copy Catherina Feb 2013 #12
ok..here ya go xiamiam Feb 2013 #20
Thank you xiamiam. I have to run an errand and will listen to it as soon as I get home Catherina Feb 2013 #37
The only thing more craven then Obama signing the NDAA into law is the total lack of media coverage Catherina Feb 2013 #11
Actually, the only thing more craven is that it passed the Senate with 83 votes ProSense Feb 2013 #14
Upfist! DeSwiss Feb 2013 #22
K & R, your "anemic democracy" is at stake! arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #13
Bah. Whiners that just want their pony. progressoid Feb 2013 #15
Anonymous found that one senator who voted for NDAA had received a quarter-million dollar donation Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #16
Which one was that? Who? n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #18
Anonymous: Night Raid Equipment-Maker Lobbied for NDAA, Singles Out Sen. Rob Portman. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #21
The corruption isn't even surprising anymore Catherina Feb 2013 #38
Government Contractors ReRe Feb 2013 #43
Excellent and informative post. DU at its best. cali Feb 2013 #17
Thanks very much Cali Catherina Feb 2013 #36
K&R DeSwiss Feb 2013 #19
Thanks for the excellent post. JEB Feb 2013 #23
kick docgee Feb 2013 #26
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #27
Good to see some recs here, kickin it! Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #28
KnR nt Zorra Feb 2013 #32
another MSM fail. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #33
Contrary to public opinion... ReRe Feb 2013 #39
all voted for him in 2008..and at least one, Michael Moore, in 2012..but not the majority xiamiam Feb 2013 #42
Well, I heard Ellsberg say it... ReRe Feb 2013 #44
Well, "Land of the free.." is soooo 19th century and the new Bogeyman is soooo scary. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #40
Unrelated but many thanks for all the hearts. It's a surprise and I'm humbled Catherina Feb 2013 #41
^ for must see videos green for victory Feb 2013 #45
Heroes, all of them! Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #46
Obama knew it was unconstitutional and would be thrown out. donheld Feb 2013 #47
HUGE K & R Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #49
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