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In reply to the discussion: Psychiatrists to brand grief lasting longer than two weeks a mental illness [View all]sibelian
(7,804 posts)123. So - a safety net for people *actually* suffering from major depressive disorder...?
Perhaps not a bad idea in principle, but how does establishing an arbitrary time limit for grief help with this?
What you're describing clearly should be a solvable quandary, but the two week limit for grieving is a horrible solution. These new diagnostic guidelines will start to subject people undergoing ordinary emotional reactions to the same stigma that other people with genuine mental health problems already face. Why can't the exclusion from a diagnosis of genuine major depressive disorder in these cases simply be managed better? You detail some effects of grief and/or depressive disorder that are threatening to life - why can't these effects themselves be taken as sufficient to validate a diagnosis in cases where actual mental illness has resulted from grief? Why must ordinary human behaviour be re-classified and our perceptions of it distorted?
I believe that your position is very well-intentioned, cbayer, for which I respect you, but it seems to me that this solution is like using a sledgehammer to fix a music box.
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Psychiatrists to brand grief lasting longer than two weeks a mental illness [View all]
The Straight Story
Feb 2013
OP
Two years ago, my sister and I were talking about the death of my brother who died in 1974....
SwissTony
Feb 2013
#125
Yes. My mother, many decades later, can still feel that way about a baby she lost.
pnwmom
Feb 2013
#126
Thank you, davidthegnome. I hope you know that I am not saying that some people
Th1onein
Feb 2013
#113
Yes it can. I think what people were objecting to was the idea that grief lasting more
pnwmom
Feb 2013
#121
No--you AREN'T supposed to be over it. That's what this designation says--some people cannot
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#139
I think that's a facile way of regarding this--family leave, therapy, therapeutic assistance,
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#138
That should be "Two weeks or as soon as a TV reporter sticks a mic in your face."
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#3
Point #2 is the Winnah!!!! You don't get medical leave, therapy, disability, without a diagnosis or
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#142
My question is: Where did they pull this length of time from, besides their arses?
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#75
I find BNW much more disturbing than 1984, because people do it to themselves.
reformist2
Feb 2013
#35
Sounds like it's designed to match a typical employee's vacation time. Hmm...
reformist2
Feb 2013
#24
So - a safety net for people *actually* suffering from major depressive disorder...?
sibelian
Feb 2013
#123
Perhaps you misread. This doesn't set an arbitrary time limit for grief at all.
cbayer
Feb 2013
#136
Well, I guess I've been mentally ill three times in my lifetime following the passing of....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#30
The language is designed to make us think of ourselves as little automatons.
reformist2
Feb 2013
#38
oh great, so when do the new 'private for profit' mental hospitals start grabbing federal money?
Sunlei
Feb 2013
#36
I must have been mentally ill for years after my son died. You don't get over something
appleannie1
Feb 2013
#39
I agree fully and losing a child changes a person. I think if anyone is mentally ill
appleannie1
Feb 2013
#87
Slightly disengenuous as the ARTICLE ITSELF contains the "woo woo" observation
sibelian
Feb 2013
#67
Good "grief," pardon the pun. Some things are just part of living, not something to be "cured."
MADem
Feb 2013
#51
Yeah, that attitude's kept several of my friends from being treated for things
Posteritatis
Feb 2013
#80
Precisely--perhaps a 'grief-based' diagnosis will allow some people who don't want to be labeled
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#137
I wonder if there'd be a benefit to thinking of that as an 'injury' rather than an 'illness'
Posteritatis
Feb 2013
#74
Post 45 both asks and answers "What the F happened to common $en$e?"
green for victory
Feb 2013
#116
Yes--it is an EXPANSION of benefits. Funny the woo crowd on this thread. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#140
But since every one is unique.... I suppose this new theory won't last to long...
midnight
Feb 2013
#133
I can see the cries from the NRA "They're out to label you mentally unstable and get your guns" eom
tarheelsunc
Feb 2013
#141