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quaker bill

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9. It is an interesting argument

Wed Apr 3, 2013, 06:16 PM

Apr 2013

Many states had established religions when the Constitution was written. I believe that State establishment of religion only ended perhaps 100+/- years ago. What is not at all clear is whether a state with an established religion could get federal funds for anything. Back in the day of state established religions, little if any federal funds flowed to the states, for anything. MA was a Puritan colony, and VA was an Anglican colony. PA was one of the few that had a "no establishment" government, which was in part why the Constitutional Convention was held in PA, as neutral ground.

Quakers are not fans of establishment, as a number of states had "quaker acts" on the books to prohibit us. These went mostly unenforced and dated back to the time when we were active in the underground railroad, but they remained on the books for quite some time.

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"Even by 2013 standards, this is scary stuff." [View all] babylonsister Apr 2013 OP

It gets worse: G_j Apr 2013 #1

Wow. I thought there were a lot babylonsister Apr 2013 #5

From what I can tell G_j Apr 2013 #7

I've had relatives from Asheville all my life. They're very educated and liberal. maddiemom Apr 2013 #21

It's just beginning G_j Apr 2013 #40

Whee. Sounds like NC will become Tea Heaven and Human Hell. Kablooie Apr 2013 #37

nc is so screwed. barbtries Apr 2013 #2

14th Amendment? How the fuck does it work? TheMightyFavog Apr 2013 #3

These people flunked 6th grade Social Studies. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #4

They never really renounced the CSA, is what this is. freshwest Apr 2013 #11

Wow, the CSA and North Korea have something in common! Beartracks Apr 2013 #30

I don't see anything in common there, explain. freshwest Apr 2013 #32

Not really a deep analysis. Beartracks Apr 2013 #41

I think that it time for North Carolina to stand up, sheshe2 Apr 2013 #6

Quote from the article: Volaris Apr 2013 #8

They passed civics, they just don't care. Over-riding the Constitution is thuggery. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #10

It is an interesting argument quaker bill Apr 2013 #9

Actually just a few Colonies had established religions, only a few States retained them and Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #34

Does still present an interesting question quaker bill Apr 2013 #35

Sure why not UBEEDelusional Apr 2013 #12

That's not the way it works - see Texas v White 1869 Supreme Court decision curlyred Apr 2013 #25

The Constitution is not carved in stone and can be changed UBEEDelusional Apr 2013 #38

Secessionist crap. There is a reason we call this a Union. curlyred Apr 2013 #39

I think the correct response is LAUGHTER Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #13

Except it's already up to 9 'imbeciles'... how many more might sign on? nt babylonsister Apr 2013 #15

Hopefully ALL of them. Hopefully they pass it... (cont) Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #17

But what state will it stop in? babylonsister Apr 2013 #20

Okay.... What exactly is your concern? Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #22

Every damn thing they do. babylonsister Apr 2013 #23

I hear that :) nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #24

I think the correct response is LAUGHTER AlbertCat Apr 2013 #16

They cannot ruin anything but their own party and careers. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #19

Lordy Jesus! littlemissmartypants Apr 2013 #14

Stick a fork in NC -- it'd done. n/t Beartracks Apr 2013 #28

I have relatives in North Carolina and have spent time in the state over the years. maddiemom Apr 2013 #18

They've been cherry picking the Bible for years curlyred Apr 2013 #26

So, the U.S. Constitution doesn't apply to.... any part of the actual U.S.? Beartracks Apr 2013 #27

Hey NC repukes! How did that secessionie thingey work out fer ya in 1861? muntrv Apr 2013 #29

Wtf is going on with my home state? Politicub Apr 2013 #31

Is there a radiation leak in NC? proReality Apr 2013 #33

I had entertained notions of retiring there quaker bill Apr 2013 #36