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freshwest

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11. They never really renounced the CSA, is what this is.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 06:40 PM
Apr 2013

Even in Texas as I was growing up, we had a state holiday celebrating Jefferson Davis's birthday, and there was public wailing about Yankees and carpetbaggers.

These clowns never accepted defeat. Generations have been singing 'The South is Going to Rise Again.' That the Confederate flag is still argued over a century later is very telling.

Same people have taken over the political scene through the Tea Party and the media as a whole, so it has given life to their horrible ideology. Nothing they do should be a surprise:

Confederate philosophy, read the dreck (emboldening font mine) and weep:

But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics. Their conclusions are right if their premises were. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights with the white man. If their premises were correct, their conclusions would be logical and just but their premise being wrong, their whole argument fails. I recollect once of having heard a gentleman from one of the northern States, of great power and ability, announce in the House of Representatives, with imposing effect, that we of the South would be compelled, ultimately, to yield upon this subject of slavery, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics, as it was in physics or mechanics. That the principle would ultimately prevail. That we, in maintaining slavery as it exists with us, were warring against a principle, a principle founded in nature, the principle of the equality of men. The reply I made to him was, that upon his own grounds, we should, ultimately, succeed, and that he and his associates, in this crusade against our institutions, would ultimately fail. The truth announced, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics as it was in physics and mechanics, I admitted; but told him that it was he, and those acting with him, who were warring against a principle. They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal...

As I have stated, the truth of this principle may be slow in development, as all truths are and ever have been, in the various branches of science. It was so with the principles announced by Galileo it was so with Adam Smith and his principles of political economy. It was so with Harvey, and his theory of the circulation of the blood. It is stated that not a single one of the medical profession, living at the time of the announcement of the truths made by him, admitted them. Now, they are universally acknowledged. May we not, therefore, look with confidence to the ultimate universal acknowledgment of the truths upon which our system rests? It is the first government ever instituted upon the principles in strict conformity to nature, and the ordination of Providence, in furnishing the materials of human society. Many governments have been founded upon the principle of the subordination and serfdom of certain classes of the same race; such were and are in violation of the laws of nature. Our system commits no such violation of nature's laws. With us, all of the white race, however high or low, rich or poor, are equal in the eye of the law. Not so with the negro. Subordination is his place. He, by nature, or by the curse against Canaan, is fitted for that condition which he occupies in our system. The architect, in the construction of buildings, lays the foundation with the proper material-the granite; then comes the brick or the marble. The substratum of our society is made of the material fitted by nature for it, and by experience we know that it is best, not only for the superior, but for the inferior race, that it should be so. It is, indeed, in conformity with the ordinance of the Creator. It is not for us to inquire into the wisdom of His ordinances, or to question them. For His own purposes, He has made one race to differ from another, as He has made "one star to differ from another star in glory." The great objects of humanity are best attained when there is conformity to His laws and decrees, in the formation of governments as well as in all things else. Our confederacy is founded upon principles in strict conformity with these laws. This stone which was rejected by the first builders "is become the chief of the corner" the real "corner-stone" in our new edifice. I have been asked, what of the future? It has been apprehended by some that we would have arrayed against us the civilized world. I care not who or how many they may be against us, when we stand upon the eternal principles of truth, if we are true to ourselves and the principles for which we contend, we are obliged to, and must triumph...


http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=76

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014260932#post149

In modern GOP, the old South returns

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/harold-meyerson-in-modern-gop-the-old-south-returns/2012/08/28/4d673034-f144-11e1-892d-bc92fee603a7_print.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021225838

JMHO.

It gets worse: G_j Apr 2013 #1
Wow. I thought there were a lot babylonsister Apr 2013 #5
From what I can tell G_j Apr 2013 #7
I've had relatives from Asheville all my life. They're very educated and liberal. maddiemom Apr 2013 #21
It's just beginning G_j Apr 2013 #40
Whee. Sounds like NC will become Tea Heaven and Human Hell. Kablooie Apr 2013 #37
nc is so screwed. barbtries Apr 2013 #2
14th Amendment? How the fuck does it work? TheMightyFavog Apr 2013 #3
These people flunked 6th grade Social Studies. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #4
They never really renounced the CSA, is what this is. freshwest Apr 2013 #11
Wow, the CSA and North Korea have something in common! Beartracks Apr 2013 #30
I don't see anything in common there, explain. freshwest Apr 2013 #32
Not really a deep analysis. Beartracks Apr 2013 #41
I think that it time for North Carolina to stand up, sheshe2 Apr 2013 #6
Quote from the article: Volaris Apr 2013 #8
They passed civics, they just don't care. Over-riding the Constitution is thuggery. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #10
It is an interesting argument quaker bill Apr 2013 #9
Actually just a few Colonies had established religions, only a few States retained them and Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #34
Does still present an interesting question quaker bill Apr 2013 #35
Sure why not UBEEDelusional Apr 2013 #12
That's not the way it works - see Texas v White 1869 Supreme Court decision curlyred Apr 2013 #25
The Constitution is not carved in stone and can be changed UBEEDelusional Apr 2013 #38
Secessionist crap. There is a reason we call this a Union. curlyred Apr 2013 #39
I think the correct response is LAUGHTER Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #13
Except it's already up to 9 'imbeciles'... how many more might sign on? nt babylonsister Apr 2013 #15
Hopefully ALL of them. Hopefully they pass it... (cont) Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #17
But what state will it stop in? babylonsister Apr 2013 #20
Okay.... What exactly is your concern? Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #22
Every damn thing they do. babylonsister Apr 2013 #23
I hear that :) nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #24
I think the correct response is LAUGHTER AlbertCat Apr 2013 #16
They cannot ruin anything but their own party and careers. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #19
Lordy Jesus! littlemissmartypants Apr 2013 #14
Stick a fork in NC -- it'd done. n/t Beartracks Apr 2013 #28
I have relatives in North Carolina and have spent time in the state over the years. maddiemom Apr 2013 #18
They've been cherry picking the Bible for years curlyred Apr 2013 #26
So, the U.S. Constitution doesn't apply to.... any part of the actual U.S.? Beartracks Apr 2013 #27
Hey NC repukes! How did that secessionie thingey work out fer ya in 1861? muntrv Apr 2013 #29
Wtf is going on with my home state? Politicub Apr 2013 #31
Is there a radiation leak in NC? proReality Apr 2013 #33
I had entertained notions of retiring there quaker bill Apr 2013 #36
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