I dare you to read this.

[Dragonfli]

49. What fascinates me about these discussions, has nothing to do with Miranda rights

or an exception that allows questioning without those rights for 48 hrs in a case of public safety.

My fascination is, that people appear to believe in abundance than any rights exist while in police custody. That belief fills me with optimism as I thought my experiences and those of the people I grew up with were common and not unique to the lower west side or even worse the east sides of buffalo.
Here they will pick you up without explanation if you are poor looking, or worse yet any type of person of color with vague talk of descriptions and crimes somewhere you have nothing to do with. The best case scenario, they cuff you, slap you around a little and pull up hard on the cuffs like they want to pull your arms off through your shoulder blades (this hurts as at least some of you out there know) then let you go with just bruises and joint pain in your wrists and shoulders (this would be the best case scenario)

The variation on this theme is they handcuff you, really pound the crap out of you and slam you on the ground face first - then they either take turns kicking you in the ribs or they do this trick they like that involves a knee being presses into your spine while simultaneously trying to rip off your arms like chicken wings. Finally they shove you in the back seat, Take you in, and you get to find out at arraignment what fiction they wrote in a report and if they only charged you with resisting, or also assaulting an officer. I don't the bogus charges are personal, they need a justification for beating the shit out of you. I am used to only hearing about Miranda when I'm told my rights were made clear at the time of arrest (when?).

I have been abused by cops this way three times and taken in and held once, all when in my late teens or early twenties, I am not even sure when the arrest happened as no one told me or read me any rights (all that stuff happened in reports that the lawyers and judge read, fiction treated as gospel).

I was white trash so I got off easy, my black and PR friends received more attention more frequently and usually with more physical damage, they always took any weed we had in our pockets if we had any the weed (that would just disappear and never made the reports or the arraignments.

I simply wonder if law enforcement is executed differently according to class and neighborhood.
Everybody here appears to assume rights are always read, I am trying to understand why so many believe that. Won't they simply write in that miranda was read to him and understood in the report? I thought that was the way it worked out with the exception of TV (or maybe rich neighborhoods your ID says you belong in)

Is this different because it's Feds? They do seem to be a LE branch that actually follows their own rules.