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JDPriestly

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13. Thank you. The other part of the right to remain silent upon which the
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 02:15 PM
Apr 2013

Miranda warning is based is the "public" trial.


U.S. Constitution
Sixth Amendment
. . . .

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
. . . .

Amendment V
. . . .

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/sixth_amendment

This case did not arise "in the land or naval forces or in the militia or when in actual service in timer of war or public danger."

These terrorists are common criminals and should be treated as such. They are not part of our military service. They were not in our military service, and they do not belong in a military court.

The reason we have military courts is that people serving the country in our military have a more demanding duty to our country than other citizens. Their rules are different. They are subject to our ordinary laws plus the military code. That's why we have military courts -- to enforce that special code.

These young men were not in our military. They do not belong in military codes. They have the rights, limited as they are, of ordinary people accused of crimes.

The gangs in Los Angeles are more like armies than these brothers and their pals. But even they get tried in normal courts. Even though they can silence witnesses in some cases through social pressure and fear of reprisal. Nevertheless, they are tried in our courts.

It's only a question in the coal-like hearts of Pointlessly Pontificating Politicians. randome Apr 2013 #1
And if you've ever been the victim of the crime undeterred Apr 2013 #2
To ensure they do not screw up a case, rustydog Apr 2013 #11
^^ This. Best post, ever. ^^ Myrina Apr 2013 #21
Nailed it. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #25
And if you have been accused unjustly of a crime WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2013 #24
Posturing for Paranoids has become an effective tool for politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #3
Great points! City Lights Apr 2013 #4
That is an important angle as well I mention this a few days ago. diabeticman Apr 2013 #5
Agree 1000% nt avebury Apr 2013 #6
Well said! suffragette Apr 2013 #7
I wouldn't whisk him off to Gitmo, but in these cases the issue of public safety, health & welfare Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #8
Not sure what you're saying - if he's tried in open court by our Constitutional judicial system, scarletwoman Apr 2013 #9
The most that is at issue today is the 48 hour delay on the Miranda rule. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #10
It's been +48 hours since he was caught, nothing's blown up. Myrina Apr 2013 #22
It will be interesting to hear what the father has to say when he gets here. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #23
K&R Progressive dog Apr 2013 #12
Thank you. The other part of the right to remain silent upon which the JDPriestly Apr 2013 #13
I strongly agree with you on this issue that is fundamental to our democracy, bvar22 Apr 2013 #14
Absolutely. timdog44 Apr 2013 #17
yes, it is G_j Apr 2013 #15
Why should this guy be treated any different amuse bouche Apr 2013 #16
I think it is because timdog44 Apr 2013 #18
The RW hate our gov. and have no confidence that our justice system can actually render justice vlyons Apr 2013 #19
^^^^THIS^^^^ Something that completely escapes the supporters of Bush admin policies Hekate Apr 2013 #20
K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #26
Conservatives Are So Hung Up on Following the Constitution AnnieBW Apr 2013 #27
scarletwoman Diclotican Apr 2013 #28
Thank you for your wonderful post! Yes, I remember well how Norway handled that horrific event. scarletwoman Apr 2013 #30
scarletwoman Diclotican Apr 2013 #33
Thank you! nt dflprincess Apr 2013 #29
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he viol usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #31
To tell the truth, the boy was an American citizen. If they take his rights Cleita Apr 2013 #32
I love this thread. Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #34
Thank YOU, Blue! scarletwoman Apr 2013 #37
Precisely! Brimley Apr 2013 #35
K/R Solly Mack Apr 2013 #36
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