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In reply to the discussion: We can do better than Hillary Clinton. [View all]DonCoquixote
(13,654 posts)168. stil more progressive
Than Hillary is, was or, judging by her silence, would be. She can easily change my mind if she promises to revive Glass Steagall.
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I don't think Joe Biden drinks. It's infuriating too because the wingnuts are always making fun of
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#229
He doesn't touch the stuff. They're using ethnic stereotyping on him. It's terribly classless. nt
MADem
May 2013
#272
Well I'm sixty-three and I grew up with modern technology, where were you?
xtraxritical
May 2013
#207
I'm pretty sure your President is proficient with current technology and he gets all
xtraxritical
May 2013
#340
I'd rather have someone who knows 20th Century US History and "grew up" in a pre-Reagan America,
whathehell
May 2013
#214
Very good point! Because too many have white-washed Reagan's reign of corporate terror
BlueCaliDem
May 2013
#227
Thank you. As a boomer who grew up in the 50's,60's, this country is almost foreign to me
whathehell
May 2013
#246
I'm the same age and feel the same way, spare me from conservatives, they're so austere.
xtraxritical
May 2013
#338
Absolutely....Had anyone told us, back in our twenties, that this is the America we'd be living in
whathehell
May 2013
#342
Just because YOU don't understand technology doesn't mean the rest of us 55+ don't
Matariki
May 2013
#277
Obama is not inspiring me to want a compromiser or a DLC Democrat next time.
JDPriestly
May 2013
#160
Because you think (wrongly) Hillary is too compromised...you'll help get a Rethug elected?
Auntie Bush
May 2013
#319
Blaming the Bush years on Nader is asinine and childish. Not a good start
rhett o rick
May 2013
#190
"Same shit that I've seen in 2000, and it needs to be nipped in the bud."
rhett o rick
May 2013
#268
+1. Blaming 2000 on Nader is as effective and logical as the Republicans' belief that they lose
winter is coming
May 2013
#304
Here's the deal. You choose a candidate that disparages progressives, then you are on your own.
rhett o rick
May 2013
#322
Here's the deal. Don't take yourself so seriously. It's childish and self-defeating.
BlueCaliDem
May 2013
#337
I have never, ever sat home. I in my experience it's the liberals/progressives that go door to door,
rhett o rick
May 2013
#343
I'm seeing people who don't want another centrist. That's not the same as anti-Democrat. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#305
Oh, goody, another lecture about the perfect being the enemy of the good.
winter is coming
May 2013
#315
You mean the Bush/USSC criminal treasonous 'decision' that stole an election and gave it
sabrina 1
May 2013
#261
Same here. Things are changing, the old ways are dying and people are far more informed now
sabrina 1
May 2013
#132
And I'm so eager to go through another campaign with Terry McAuliffe and Mark Penn on my TV screen.
Music Man
May 2013
#5
You're right, HILLARY\WARREN 2016 > Hillary :-)...I'm for Hillary, I believe she's changed enough...
uponit7771
May 2013
#7
Bernie would be ideal too. But it would be difficult as a third party candidate at this point...
cascadiance
May 2013
#257
I think the country is so fed up, it will respond to someone who seems "strong".
gateley
May 2013
#269
Merkley was the senator who lead the effort to try and get a talking filibuster earlier...
cascadiance
May 2013
#278
My sense is that Hillary and Warren may have ideological differences, so don't see
gateley
May 2013
#284
The more people push Hillary, the less acceptable I find her or any other centrist. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#9
If you voted for Bobby Haircut and didn't feel slimy, you may be in the wrong place.
11 Bravo
May 2013
#67
In the sense, that I'm making the transition from "would reluctantly vote for but
winter is coming
May 2013
#16
I would prefer Elizabeth Warren, but I think using "warmly embracing Kissinger" as a rationale
Warren DeMontague
May 2013
#21
There is a big slice of Obama Primary/caucus supporters who are quite willing to get behind Hillary.
Pirate Smile
May 2013
#152
She won't stop until everyone at DU despises Hillary. I'm a loyal Democrat....
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#159
"It has never been Clinton friendly". Do you think you've contributed to that?
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#235
This could be a very unified party but some of the Clinton folks - like Rendell - have got to stop
Pirate Smile
May 2013
#203
See what Pirate Smile said below. I supported Obama (reluctantly) over Hillary in the primaries.
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2013
#375
Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. - Henry Kissinger
L0oniX
May 2013
#33
"I don't talk to or shake hands with war criminals" ...that would work for me. n/t
L0oniX
May 2013
#41
We can do better than Hillary, but I'd support her if she ends up the nominee.
SunSeeker
May 2013
#22
Elizabeth has NO foreign policy experience. With all that is going on around the world
Auntie Bush
May 2013
#45
NO foreign policy experience? "Some say" we've elected presidents with only two years
bike man
May 2013
#61
"the left want Clinton" ...WTF dude don't even try to frame it as a "left" thing.
L0oniX
May 2013
#24
Hillary45 to continue Barack Obama's agenda forever. Get used to this picture.
graham4anything
May 2013
#28
She is no Obama - the Clinton's are not interested in much other than their own selves and
Whisp
May 2013
#377
Still waiting for Hillary to tell us what laid off IT workers and engineers are supposed to train fo
DJ13
May 2013
#72
I read that the human trafficking business is booming, bigger than it's ever been.
eilen
May 2013
#79
Obama is charismatic, good-looking, and a good speaker. Other than all that stuff...
Eleanors38
May 2013
#98
Count me out of your "we." I like her. If I want to hear people trashing her, I would turn on
MADem
May 2013
#60
I'm going to be happy to see Hillary win the nomination and the General Election.
stevenleser
May 2013
#70
Well, if they're spending all their energy hunched over their keyboards "hating" here,
MADem
May 2013
#263
Rupert Murdoch likes her too. He even threw a party for her. So not to worry, she may
sabrina 1
May 2013
#134
What an absurdly petty thing to say, and it shows your lack of understanding of the nuance
MADem
May 2013
#141
Facts are petty now? YOU mentioned Faux, I presented a fact. And you launched into yet another
sabrina 1
May 2013
#143
Well, if you consider yourself to be superior to the rest of us who have very good reasons to
sabrina 1
May 2013
#150
Well, IF is a short word with a lot of portent, and IF I wanted to engage in fruitless
MADem
May 2013
#151
We're on the same page, MADem. I realize that I'm on the opposite side of some of my Obama...
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#237
Ditto. It doesn't matter ultimately whether or not I like him/her, what matters
gateley
May 2013
#251
Thank You! Absolutely nothing wrong with principles, but they're useless without the ability to win
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#273
I think we need some new blood -- even though I'm still HUGELY supportive of Biden.
gateley
May 2013
#73
I'm surprised that graham4whatever has not weighed in on his favourite candidate.
madinmaryland
May 2013
#87
Well, I thought Skinner said it's not illegal to have a second account if you have a valid reason
MADem
May 2013
#369
*Never* marry or vote for anyone using "he/she might improve" as a reason.
winter is coming
May 2013
#93
No, none of those women are acceptable. Napolitano with her anti-Constitutional
sabrina 1
May 2013
#264
The DLC will go the way of the "Bourbon Democrats" of a century ago...
Spitfire of ATJ
May 2013
#117
The DLC folded over two years ago....only here, on DU, does there exist people who still think it
MADem
May 2013
#145
No it isn't. It was a fundraising (emphasized) and policy - postulating outfit. It is no more.
MADem
May 2013
#155
You know as well as I do about the results of a survey where contituents were more liberal,...
Spitfire of ATJ
May 2013
#285
My objections in this thread have to do with false characterizations of politicians for purposes of
MADem
May 2013
#289
They are people who will do what they need to do to get the best deal they can possibly get.
MADem
May 2013
#295
No one's gonna get elected to do any advancing if they tack too far either way. nt
MADem
May 2013
#317
It's true. But Republicans don't always embrace Conservatism--not by a long shot.
MADem
May 2013
#336
Well of course that's what Speaker O'Neill meant. And I did not miss the point at all.
MADem
May 2013
#352
"How the hell do you think Mitt Fuckin' Romney became governor of MA?"
Spitfire of ATJ
May 2013
#355
Because it's NOT HIS STATE and we KNEW IT. He was not born in MA. He did not live in MA.
MADem
May 2013
#358
Republicans reject the idea that "all politics is local" and they win....
Spitfire of ATJ
May 2013
#362
No--YOU miss the point. If the DLC was still a viable, lobbying, policy making and fund raising
MADem
May 2013
#270
What Democrat that you like has an equal to or better than chance of getting elected in 2016?
MrScorpio
May 2013
#127
For fucks sake, give it a rest. If she wins, we win..... if she loses...we still can win
Rowdyboy
May 2013
#164
We have to get through 2014 first. GOTV and give Obama a Congress that will work with him
Hekate
May 2013
#169
OK! HILLARY IS 1000X better than ANY Republican. But she is not going to move the country forward
Douglas Carpenter
May 2013
#170
I would love your proof that her plan would have been more compromised than his at the get go
dsc
May 2013
#176
Only Liberal/Progressive in the Senate is Sanders. Rest are free market Corporate Sellouts.
harun
May 2013
#299
It's an excellent question. But don't expect any answers from the DLC/ThirdWayers. nt
antigop
May 2013
#244
"(inevitability) with which most on the left want Clinton to run in 2016"
Egalitarian Thug
May 2013
#240
Well, it would be hard to find someone worse than Hillary..unless you're fond of the DLC.
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2013
#311
The problem with "centrists" is they are ALWAYS corporatist. Just wishy washy on social issues...
cascadiance
May 2013
#345