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leveymg

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4. "The Program" Comey, Goldsmith objected to is the NSA "Thin Thread" program
Fri May 31, 2013, 11:03 AM
May 2013

I think "The Program" that Comey and Goldsmith objected to, and talked Ashcroft into modifying, was the NSA "Thin Thread" program described by Jane Mayer in her 2011 New Yorker profile of NSA Whistleblower, Bill Binney.

Going backwards, related programs included Trailblazer, an NSA program that focused on interception and analysis of data carried on web communications networks, cell phones, VOIP, and e-mail. After receiving widely-reported adverse publicity Trailblazer was shutdown but reportedly morphed into the NSA Turbulance Program. Thin Thread was a rival, and until more recently still secret, NSA program that went operational, resulting in massive domestic surveillance. This is described by Jane Mayer in a 2011 New Yorker article: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/05/23/110523fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all

"Code-named ThinThread, it had been developed by
technological wizards in a kind of Skunk Works on the N.S.A. campus. Formally, the project was supervised by the agency’s Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center, or SARC.

While most of the N.S.A. was reeling on September 11th, inside SARC the horror unfolded “almost like an ‘I-told-you-so’ moment,” according to J. Kirk Wiebe, an intelligence analyst who worked there. “We knew we weren’t keeping up.” SARC was led by a crypto-mathematician named Bill Binney, whom Wiebe describes as “one of the best analysts in history.”

Binney and a team of some twenty others believed that they had
pinpointed the N.S.A.’s biggest problem—data overload—and then solved it. But the agency’s management hadn’t agreed.

Binney, who is six feet three, is a bespectacled sixty-seven-year-old man with wisps of dark hair; he has the quiet,
tense air of a preoccupied intellectual. Now retired and suffering
gravely from diabetes, which has already claimed his left leg, he agreed recently to speak publicly for the first time about the Drake case. When we met, at a restaurant near N.S.A. headquarters, he leaned crutches against an extra chair. “This is too serious not to talk about,” he said.

Binney expressed terrible remorse over the way some of his
algorithms were used after 9/11. ThinThread, the “little program” that he invented to track enemies outside the U.S., “got twisted,” and was used for both foreign and domestic spying: “I should apologize to the American people. It’s violated everyone’s rights. It can be used to eavesdrop on the whole world.” According to Binney, Drake took his side against the N.S.A.’s management and, as a result, became a political target within the agency.

Binney described Thin Thread to Mayer, who describes The Program this way:

ThinThread would correlate data from financial transactions, travel records, Web searches, G.P.S. equipment, and any other “attributes” that an analyst might find useful in pinpointing “the
bad guys.” By 2000, Binney, using fibre optics, had set up a computer network that could chart relationships among people in real time. It also turned the N.S.A.’s data-collection paradigm upside down. Instead of vacuuming up information around the world and then sending it all back to headquarters for analysis, ThinThread processed information as it was collected—discarding useless information on the spot and avoiding the overload problem that plagued centralized systems. Binney says,
“The beauty of it is that it was open-ended, so it could keep
expanding.”

Pilot tests of ThinThread proved almost too successful, according to a former intelligence expert who analyzed it. “It was nearly perfect,” the official says. “But it processed such a large amount of data that it picked up more Americans than the other systems.” Though ThinThread was intended to intercept foreign communications, it continued documenting signals when a trail crossed into the U.S.

< . . .>

Binney, for his part, believes that the agency now stores copies of
all e-mails transmitted in America, in case the government wants to
retrieve the details later. In the past few years, the N.S.A. has built
enormous electronic-storage facilities in Texas and Utah. Binney says that an N.S.A. e-mail database can be searched with “dictionary selection,” in the manner of Google. After 9/11, he says, “General Hayden reassured everyone that the N.S.A. didn’t put out dragnets, and that was true. It had no need—it was getting every fish in the sea.” [end excerpt]

The thing that's different about the The Program as it was modified by Comey, Goldsmith, Ashcroft is a feature retrieved from Binney's original Thin Thread design that employs algorithms to determine that due cause exists to obtain a FISA warrant before US Person identities are revealed to the analyst. That may be a small difference, but it is a difference.
K&R MotherPetrie May 2013 #1
It's not Democracy when citizens cannot freely and securely exchange ideas. Octafish May 2013 #6
At least he didn't ProSense May 2013 #2
Worse: Comey approved the destruction of a human being's mind. Octafish May 2013 #3
absolutely horrifying. and we wonder why Bush warcrimes weren't pursued. nashville_brook May 2013 #24
There certainly is a break down in Justice. Octafish May 2013 #33
Actually Comey signed off on "kinder, gentler", torture. From the same article Luminous Animal May 2013 #9
The paragraph ProSense May 2013 #12
***Another fact based persepective from ProSense*** Thx much for the links uponit7771 May 2013 #19
Why won't you link to the article Glenn Greenwald wrote yesterday? NOVA_Dem May 2013 #37
Greenwald is currently still in his "split Progressives from Dems by any means possible" mode, struggle4progress Jun 2013 #46
"The Program" Comey, Goldsmith objected to is the NSA "Thin Thread" program leveymg May 2013 #4
replied to wrong post Autumn May 2013 #11
National Security Agency Whistleblower William Binney on Growing State Surveillance Octafish May 2013 #13
K&R. (nt) Kurovski May 2013 #5
When only certain people can be privy to the secrets of a nation... Octafish May 2013 #32
Recommended. H2O Man May 2013 #7
K&R nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #8
"Change" You Can't BeLIEve In! blkmusclmachine May 2013 #10
Hail to the new criminal boss...same as the old criminal boss. I've always MotherPetrie May 2013 #17
But, but ...he was one of the good guys...he stood up against...oh nevermind. Safetykitten May 2013 #14
It seemed some here came to the defense of this pick really fast too Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #15
Church. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #18
Back up Obama's ass.... pocoloco May 2013 #22
bwahahahaha... nashville_brook May 2013 #23
If they do come back, I wont know. I have the bunch on ignore. I was getting sick of their rhett o rick May 2013 #28
Is that ProSense May 2013 #30
OK ...let's all be good patriots and accept the implants. L0oniX May 2013 #16
K&R nt Eyerish May 2013 #20
Recommended Autumn May 2013 #21
Except all the news sources that matter contradicts these blatant lies. nt Pragdem May 2013 #25
Dont leave us hanging. Tell us more. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #26
Such as? Rex May 2013 #29
Rec'd Corruption Inc May 2013 #27
Comey is the one who appointed Fitzgerald to do the Plame leak investigation MinM May 2013 #31
Fitzgerald, after being praised so highly, was a weak fish, wasn't he? byeya May 2013 #34
As weak as Harry Reid. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #45
yes I remember everyone being held accountable Skittles May 2013 #44
A felon and a torturer to head the FBI? It's unbelievably horrific Corruption Inc May 2013 #35
Jesus, with nominations like this, it seems we have a kinder, gentler, albeit more indepat May 2013 #36
well... NOVA_Dem May 2013 #38
Well, so much for the kinder and gentler bit indepat May 2013 #40
What is it with Obama and the GWB retreads? PufPuf23 May 2013 #39
Look at it as proliferation of the right-wing's agenda minus some of the really crazy indepat May 2013 #41
James Comey testifies before Senate Judiciary Coyotl May 2013 #42
Comey and Obama are 2 peas in a pro-warantless wiretapping pod. forestpath May 2013 #43
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