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maxrandb

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17. Hmm, sounds to me like Ben would have done anything to catch Arnold
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jun 2013

Those papers were intercepted from a man in civilian clothes going about his business on horseback. Heck, we didn't "tap" his phone, we stripped him naked and found Arnold's correspondence in his shoe.

And please don't try to put words in Franklin's mouth. I think that he, and the rest of the original founders, are a heck of a lot deeper than any of us know, and a heck of a lot more flawed than we'd ever guess.

If you honestly think that we "didn't" use intelligence gathering during the Revolutionary War, or if you think we "didn't" use "data-mining" during Franklin's times, you're delusional.

Ben Franklin on the surveillance scandal [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 OP
Ben Franklin "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". His most important quote graham4anything Jun 2013 #1
Bullshit. premium Jun 2013 #4
Did Franklin every actually present an argument in support of that pithy quote? Orrex Jun 2013 #9
Actually here's the quote, premium Jun 2013 #10
Sorry--didn't mean to single you out Orrex Jun 2013 #14
He was a Revolutionary, and the English would have used his meta-data as an excuse to imprison him corkhead Jun 2013 #6
I enjoy history lessons from Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #7
I'm convinced he's either Andy Kauffman, a reincarnated Random Thoughts, a Manny wannabe corkhead Jun 2013 #12
He also said "Early to bed and early to rise" even though he was known as a hearty partier. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #8
Another Franklin quote. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #11
Apparently, he was talking aobut fires: Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #16
His most important quote was clearly... Fla_Democrat Jun 2013 #20
“A Republic, if you can keep it.” Catherina Jun 2013 #2
Good points. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #3
In today's world, I am certain Ben's meta-data alone would have gotten him Gitmo'd corkhead Jun 2013 #5
I would be willing to bet you that maxrandb Jun 2013 #13
What BS. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #15
Hmm, sounds to me like Ben would have done anything to catch Arnold maxrandb Jun 2013 #17
They were the right men at the right time in history. But definitely flawed. Franklin wanted to KittyWampus Jun 2013 #19
Franklin would have been labeled a PINO (Patriot In Name Only) By Many On DU KittyWampus Jun 2013 #18
Could you imagine the gnashing of teeth if DU had maxrandb Jun 2013 #21
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