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Waiting For Everyman

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40. Those are some good questions, but no, I hope he escapes
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 10:28 AM
Jun 2013

and I hope there are more whistleblowers after him. Until the Surveillance State apparatus is repealed, actions like Snowden's will be necessary to stop the damn thing.

No, I'm not paranoid about saying so. There was a time when I would've been though, I understand that feeling. I am one who has dealt with harassment from that angle, every so often, ever since the Nixon years, and I long ago stopped buying its "bogeyman" image -- I know from my own direct experience that 'they' are cowards, and not very bright. At this point, I think I have simply outlived the pod that was on my back. But if they care to play again, I know how it moves, I know what it looks like, and I know what to do about it. I no longer have anything to lose, except myself, and I'm an 'old lady' now. I'm left from it with nothing but a story, which is too complicated to tell, even if I wanted to -- which I don't. Even if I did want to, I know that no one would believe it anyway (only those who have dealt with it too, and they don't need telling). So there has been an impasse for a long while now, and I expect it to stay that way. But I couldn't care less if it doesn't. It has already wrecked my life, and there is nothing more that it can do, nothing that I care about.

And I'll tell you something funny -- I'm one of the most patriotic people on this board. It isn't the government that did this to me, but a criminal element within it. And I'd like nothing better than to see that rooted out. Maybe not in my lifetime, but I believe someday it will be.

Don't care about him, but I'd really like more light and heat on the spying. Scuba Jun 2013 #1
Secretly? No. bowens43 Jun 2013 #2
No, Champion Jack Jun 2013 #3
Who do you believe? kentuck Jun 2013 #4
"I don't believe him"? This isn't about Snowden's words. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #15
No 66 dmhlt Jun 2013 #5
Yes, I'm perfectly free from paranoia. cali Jun 2013 #6
I wouldn't wish what's going to happen to him Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #62
No, I don't give a flying fuck what happens to him. ellie Jun 2013 #7
no..... madrchsod Jun 2013 #8
I am very open about it. He is a whistleblower and a refugee claimant and must be treated as idwiyo Jun 2013 #9
I hope he gets caught. justiceischeap Jun 2013 #10
I want him caught Godhumor Jun 2013 #11
I'm not secret about it at all! WinkyDink Jun 2013 #12
I am not afraid to say anything treestar Jun 2013 #13
He knew what he was doing. His arrest wouldn't upset me. But, what does bother me leveymg Jun 2013 #14
True +++ marions ghost Jun 2013 #25
+1 Myrina Jun 2013 #29
Absolutely. They're still in "rah rah rah America" mode. sibelian Jun 2013 #53
Like around 1968. leveymg Jun 2013 #57
absolutely grasswire Jun 2013 #84
They should be ashamed. leveymg Jun 2013 #85
+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #87
Oh heck, yeah N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2013 #16
+100 RC Jun 2013 #42
+100 sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #45
But the irreperable harm done to the bobduca Jun 2013 #47
Hey... ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #63
no I am openly rooting for snowden to remain out of our injustice system. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #17
If he were caught, would it really be an injustice for him to be prosecuted? leveymg Jun 2013 #19
yes. He will be made an example of, a warning to all other potential whistleblowers. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #20
Security states always fear exposure. They can rule only through secrecy and lies. But, there are leveymg Jun 2013 #24
As long as Cheney and Bush remain free of indictment or even criminal investigation, HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #52
Yes; I don't think anyone in government gives a rat's ass about my opinon on Snowden MindPilot Jun 2013 #18
No secret about it Marrah_G Jun 2013 #21
no secret here datasuspect Jun 2013 #22
I am overtly rooting for Snowden to escape US authorities. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #23
No - not at all - I hope he's caught (n/t) leftynyc Jun 2013 #26
I'm grateful to him for exposing privacy violations, and openly hope that he isn't prosecuted. Eric J in MN Jun 2013 #27
Nnnnnnope cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #28
Nope. Bonobo Jun 2013 #30
Not secretly. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #31
NO!!! nt jrthin Jun 2013 #32
Now the the Chinese and Russian security services have sucked him dry hack89 Jun 2013 #33
How do you know that, hack89? Bohunk68 Jun 2013 #34
Why wouldn't they? hack89 Jun 2013 #36
In other words, Bohunk68 Jun 2013 #73
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how an intellegence agency would react hack89 Jun 2013 #74
I'm openly rooting for Snowden to continue escaping US authorities. Autumn Jun 2013 #35
negative nevergiveup Jun 2013 #37
I don't care about him. I care about the issues he raised. Apophis Jun 2013 #38
They is watchin' all me words ma! snooper2 Jun 2013 #39
Those are some good questions, but no, I hope he escapes Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #40
Not secretly. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #41
No, I'm openly rooting for Snowden to continue escaping US authorities. forestpath Jun 2013 #43
its a bit like where's waldo Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #44
NO Tikki Jun 2013 #46
not secretly. pretty openly. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #48
I secretly want him going to DisneyWorld next. HipChick Jun 2013 #49
I'm enjoying the white Bronco chase. Long may it continue! (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #50
It's the government that's paranoid about having the people know what it does. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #51
citizen, it's doubleplus good that the state is hot on the heels of the terrorist... mike_c Jun 2013 #54
Not secretly supporting him as I'm pretty open with it. That said, if I were younger and ever Purveyor Jun 2013 #55
Interesting OP/thread. H2O Man Jun 2013 #56
His international human right to not be tortured supersedes any US law. L0oniX Jun 2013 #58
No. mfcorey1 Jun 2013 #59
No Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #60
Yes, I hope he escapes. BlueStater Jun 2013 #61
I am openly rooting for Snowden. former9thward Jun 2013 #64
Firmly, unequivocally rooting for Snowden to escape US Guantanamo-style injustice Catherina Jun 2013 #65
I would like Russia to hand him over Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #66
No, I hope he's caught. tallahasseedem Jun 2013 #67
probably since a Democrat is in the White House, we aren't as paranoid as we should be yurbud Jun 2013 #68
no.. frylock Jun 2013 #69
I find myself hesitant to write what I feel magellan Jun 2013 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author magellan Jun 2013 #71
I hope he's caught, but I think he's gone LeftInTX Jun 2013 #72
Not secretly. Openly. dairydog91 Jun 2013 #75
Snowden is irrelevant to me at this point LibAsHell Jun 2013 #76
for a h.s. dropout warrprayer Jun 2013 #77
It is much more interesting to watch him bounce around the world The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #78
Oh, I want him to stay in Ecuador. But he is as traitorous as a corporation aquart Jun 2013 #79
I'm secretly hoping he suffers a ruptured berry aneurysm and dies a quick, painful death so we kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #80
There's nothing "secret" about my position derby378 Jun 2013 #81
Oh hell no. 99Forever Jun 2013 #82
Our brave security forces tazered a naked 11 year old autistic girl found wandering in a daze Fumesucker Jun 2013 #83
I'm rooting for him to evade capture, and I'll make no secret of it. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #86
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