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40. Only two people know, but one of them is dead -- means only one person knows.

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:18 PM

Jun 2013

The other knew, but can not speak for himself.
We presume his innocence, as there is no reason
to find him guilty of anything.

We try to piece together his story, together, to
understand what happened, to support the
cause of justice and give him a voice.

Truly -- probably not even Zimmerman knows
what happened.. I guarantee he has already
rewritten his own memories. It's a coping
and survival mechanism. The killer must
find some goodness in himself or he will
perish, so he starts rewriting history immediately,
inside his own head.

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I think Trayvon Martin should have dodged the bullet. [View all] IdaBriggs Jun 2013 OP

Indeed... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #1

agree a 1000%. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #2

People are twisting themselves HappyMe Jun 2013 #3

That's where I'm at. Little Star Jun 2013 #4

K and Hatchling Jun 2013 #5

Gunloons are all concerned with the right to shoot Warpy Jun 2013 #6

I wish DU had the "like" button for individual posts. IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #7

You know what, you are 100% correct. HappyMe Jun 2013 #10

Aaron Hernandez bought a pack of cotton candy flavored bubblegum Mr. Blue Sky Jun 2013 #16

Wow. bravenak Jun 2013 #80

The said wrappers of which were in the rental car in which the victim and accused were both. alphafemale Jun 2013 #108

A well placed Skittle can be deadly! Enthusiast Jun 2013 #49

Please tell that to this guy notadmblnd Jun 2013 #55

You win the Post of the Day. Apophis Jun 2013 #74

+1 graham4anything Jun 2013 #103

+1000 gollygee Jun 2013 #115

A concrete sidewalk can be a deadly weapon Mr. Blue Sky Jun 2013 #8

Oh for fuck's sake. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #9

How did Z get his bloody nose and lacerations on back of head? Mr. Blue Sky Jun 2013 #12

One witness and he already recanted starroute Jun 2013 #18

there was “downward movement.” Mr. Blue Sky Jun 2013 #19

Did you know Z was trained in MMA? uppityperson Jun 2013 #21

I think that maybe one of the things that could ultimately cause his conviction davidpdx Jun 2013 #109

Hey, Mr. 31 posts. Stop defending a GROWN ASS MAN who followed a 16 year old home, K Gardner Jun 2013 #38

God Gawd Damn AMEN HangOnKids Jun 2013 #45

Echo chambers are never as much fun LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #112

And it could have been Z reaching for his gun. notadmblnd Jun 2013 #57

He also managed to tell colors of red and black jackets in the dark when the cones uppityperson Jun 2013 #90

So what? Even if Martin was striking Zimmerman, it was MARTIN that every right to defend himself. npk Jun 2013 #25

Now, now. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #54

Apparently... npk Jun 2013 #59

To npk: this has been my thought all along as well. susanna Jun 2013 #92

So... nebenaube Jun 2013 #37

Self inflicted! Enthusiast Jun 2013 #51

his injuries do NOT support that scenario riverwalker Jun 2013 #67

gun recoil TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #73

why are gun humpers coming out of the woodwork? Skittles Jun 2013 #97

What's scary reflection Jun 2013 #31

Oh FFS! HappyMe Jun 2013 #11

Z gained over 100 lbs since being arrested. Mr. Blue Sky Jun 2013 #13

Oh my!!!1 HappyMe Jun 2013 #15

No, they didn't weight "about the same". 158 and 200 lbs are quite different. uppityperson Jun 2013 #22

TRAYVON IS DEAD Skittles Jun 2013 #98

So very, very, VERY goodbye! FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #23

SAYS WHO!? The liar Zimmerman?! Regards uponit7771 Jun 2013 #28

Maybe Trayvon wouldn't have had to use whatever he had at hand to defend himself Lordquinton Jun 2013 #29

You show a very good point. BrainMann1 Jun 2013 #34

Then don't chase down strangers on a concrete sidewalk NoOneMan Jun 2013 #32

Zimmerman should have stayed away from Martin then yardwork Jun 2013 #39

They both had use of the deadly sidewalk, only one had use of the gun... Phentex Jun 2013 #42

^=== This. nt IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #58

Guess you didn't know . . . brush Jun 2013 #68

Bull! brush Jun 2013 #70

You should e-mail that to the prosecution... Pelican Jun 2013 #89

You're not very well informed brush Jun 2013 #93

The Actress Was Natasha Richardson HangOnKids Jun 2013 #95

That 'no blood on the concrete' part is telling. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #96

Trayvon Martin had the right to use deadly force in self defense... Humanist_Activist Jun 2013 #84

Once you engage in pursuit, your mantle of innocence collapses. Kennah Jun 2013 #88

Not possible to beat someone bloody without getting his DNA all over you eridani Jun 2013 #94

I've been paying close attention to this on the local news (I live in FL) AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #14

I agree HockeyMom Jun 2013 #26

I keep thinking about the same thing, 2nd degree vs manslaughter. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #36

exactly...if he had just told the truth from the beginning noiretextatique Jun 2013 #50

I just looked up sentencing for murder in FL.. very interesting Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #60

thanks for the info noiretextatique Jun 2013 #61

culpible negligence Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #62

Bingo! As we say in FL. OK, I don't. But there is a lot of Bingo going on here. AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #63

EXACTLY!!!! DrDan Jun 2013 #106

The EMT just testified that it took him all of 5 minutes to treat Zimmerman... he could not have secondwind Jun 2013 #17

Oh come on, he didn't just shoot an unarmed kid. A Simple Game Jun 2013 #20

Exactly n/t joesdaughter Jun 2013 #83

A kid can't walk down the street without somebody fucking with him, following him... BlueJazz Jun 2013 #24

K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #27

it has just come out in court that zimmerman has a problem with constipation Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #30

That explains the weight gain HangOnKids Jun 2013 #46

Precisely.......nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #56

!!! LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #113

I agree BrainMann1 Jun 2013 #33

I wasn't there. Neither were you. bobclark86 Jun 2013 #35

Only two people know, but one of them is dead -- means only one person knows. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #40

If Zimmerman is acquitted he will be a celebrity yardwork Jun 2013 #41

Go back in time Herlong Jun 2013 #44

Yes to the first part. bobclark86 Jun 2013 #118

curious: did you feel the same way about the OJ trial? noiretextatique Jun 2013 #53

Since I was in third grade at the time, no. bobclark86 Jun 2013 #117

I swear to god I can't bear this crap for months. Poor George. Got a bump on his head because, as K Gardner Jun 2013 #43

The defense used Zimmermans weight as a defensive move? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #52

that was weird, getting the doctor to describe him as obese, etc. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #64

Since When Does Being Full Of Shit Exempt One From Murder? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #65

they're trying to portray him as an out of shape weakling, too weak to fight for his life Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #69

I Get Their Piss Poor Attempts HangOnKids Jun 2013 #72

omg.. I missed the part about constipation and just spewed water on the puter.. WTH? He could have K Gardner Jun 2013 #77

She was explaining why she had treated him for back pain Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #86

So don't watch the trial, don't read the news bigwillq Jun 2013 #71

I sometimes forget how "literally" some people on DU take phrases. Sorry you overreacted K Gardner Jun 2013 #79

but since the kid was black... noiretextatique Jun 2013 #47

The defense attorneys tend to alienate witnesses very effectively Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #48

Just so. bravenak Jun 2013 #66

...and Winter is Coming. n/t K Gardner Jun 2013 #75

Thank you for getting me. bravenak Jun 2013 #76

I get you. Words are wind. ~~~ K Gardner Jun 2013 #81

Poor Trayvon. bravenak Jun 2013 #82

Oh, you won the round with that one. Bellisimo ...“What do we say to the Lord of Death?" K Gardner Jun 2013 #85

I'm thinking that zimmerman was just having a fire and blood moment. bravenak Jun 2013 #91

This post reads like poetry to me. IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #99

Trayvon would've been able to, if only he'd had "wire work" training Ken Burch Jun 2013 #78

Anyone defending Zimmerman are saying armed people in their chelsea0011 Jun 2013 #87

when you say "case closed" hfojvt Jun 2013 #100

If I jump into a boxing ring with you -- IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #104

Thanks for repeating this JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #110

consent does not really matter hfojvt Jun 2013 #111

Repeating nonsense and lies doesn't make them true. IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #114

which ones do you think are nonsense and lies? hfojvt Jun 2013 #116

agree. n/t bcbink Jun 2013 #101

+1,000 malaise Jun 2013 #102

"case closed"???? DrDan Jun 2013 #105

If Trayvon had been Trisha Tien1985 Jun 2013 #107