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calimary

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40. Hey, for me, it's pretty simplistic. FACT: we simply HAVE TO keep the White House.

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 05:34 PM

Jul 2013

We HAVE TO keep it in Democratic hands.

There is no alternative.

Frankly, the only reason you need is the Supreme Court. I grow more concerned if the rush to criticize and trash and take-down people on our side, who might actually have a few redeeming qualities as far as policy positions and such, begins to trash the whole Democratic brand to the point where it becomes more possible for a republi-CON to take the White House back. You think scalia, alito, and thomas are bad, how'd you like two or three MORE of them? If Ruth Bader Ginsburg can't serve any longer - which mentality and political world view would YOU find acceptable in picking her successor? Five-to-four is bad enough. Would you care to risk six-to-three?

In the public perception, a weakened Obama has a bad effect on the rest of the party, especially down-ticket races. And since we're stuck with two parties, we're stuck with the lesser of two evils. I'd love it to be perfect, I'd love for everyone on our side to be sinless. President Obama isn't perfect. But GOD FORBID it had been mitt romney...

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...psssst... [View all] WilliamPitt Jul 2013 OP

A couple things Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #1

There is no mirror of RW criticism eridani Jul 2013 #10

+1 Well put. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #24

Bingo. n/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #75

bullshit, the frequency of winger memes is overt uponit7771 Jul 2013 #101

Let's have a link to a Duer praising Bush for NSA spying then eridani Jul 2013 #107

strawman noted, number of winger memes being overt has nothing to do with Bush...good try though uponit7771 Jul 2013 #111

Moral and ethical consistency = "straw man"? eridani Jul 2013 #113

wow!! a simple ask for evidence of your claim is a *strawman* -- i think you might want to check nashville_brook Jul 2013 #141

the meme of "winger meme" is bullshit. tomp Jul 2013 #136

I've never seen anyone criticize Obama for mollycoddling the downtrodden. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #23

I've seen it Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #28

so, iow, it's not a Democrat or liberal doing that RainDog Jul 2013 #73

Yes, it's strictly from the RW Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #77

so it's not a mirror RainDog Jul 2013 #78

couple things kardonb Jul 2013 #31

kardonb, let me tell you something...... Th1onein Jul 2013 #67

One person's whining is another's opining. tblue Jul 2013 #119

I will be happy to criticize the President for mollycoddling the downtrodden! A Simple Game Jul 2013 #35

I never said that he had Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #52

I have seen a lot of it from the right, but the only complaints of Mollycoddling the downtrodden A Simple Game Jul 2013 #56

This, because I support the President, but I DON'T support ANY encroachment on my RIGHTS LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #53

Here's a criticism I will not stop making and if you can tell me I'm wrong feel free to do so. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #143

As I posted earlier --- madamesilverspurs Jul 2013 #2

I HEARTILY AGREE WITH THIS SENTIMENT Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #6

I agree with you... one_voice Jul 2013 #26

So, there's no name-calling and thread-dumping from "righteous ones" Hissyspit Jul 2013 #29

But the see no evil crowd is also aiding and abetting the abrogation of the Constitution. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #9

Disappointment at betrayal of basic Democratic party values is not "glee" n/t eridani Jul 2013 #11

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #13

So, there's no "unrelenting hand-rubbing glee over every opportunity to trash" Hissyspit Jul 2013 #27

Thank you, Madame Silverspurs Hekate Jul 2013 #34

You left off blind allegiance nineteen50 Jul 2013 #49

And to whom would that refer? Because I keep trying to strike a balance here Hekate Jul 2013 #91

So you're refering to Greenwald and Snowden? nm Cha Jul 2013 #98

Madame Silverspurs makes a most excellent point. calimary Jul 2013 #86

I think most of your comment was directed elsewhere, since you and I agree with Mme.S. Hekate Jul 2013 #89

Well, yes, and no. 'Cause I was reinforcing you. calimary Jul 2013 #123

Happy 4th, Calimary. Hekate Jul 2013 #124

You, too, Hekate! calimary Jul 2013 #125

I confess. LWolf Jul 2013 #37

Wow. I think you just spoke for me. Daemonaquila Jul 2013 #57

I miss seeing you around here more MuseRider Jul 2013 #104

I miss seeing you, too, Muse. LWolf Jul 2013 #132

+ a gazillion. chervilant Jul 2013 #133

LWolf, are you my twin sister??? We think exactly alike, that's for sure. nt Nay Jul 2013 #138

Hey, for me, it's pretty simplistic. FACT: we simply HAVE TO keep the White House. calimary Jul 2013 #40

...and furthermore... calimary Jul 2013 #47

Both parties are playing nineteen50 Jul 2013 #50

Perhaps. But did you see the Democrats lining up to block a certain demographic's right to vote? calimary Jul 2013 #84

All that said nineteen50 Jul 2013 #112

I don't regard a woman's right to choose as a "distraction issue." calimary Jul 2013 #121

It is not the true believing Democrat its the Central committee nineteen50 Jul 2013 #130

I think I can tell who... Hekate Jul 2013 #92

Neoliberals are not on my side. LWolf Jul 2013 #80

I agree completely that we cannot let the GOP back in the White House. However totodeinhere Jul 2013 #96

True, but this makes me think of Buckminster Fuller's trim tab metaphor. calimary Jul 2013 #122

So criticism YOU agree with is 'constructive' but if you don't approve Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #44

No, "Madame" is NOT the sole judge and jury. madamesilverspurs Jul 2013 #55

Your post says 'if I approve I call it constructive, if not it is unacceptable' Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #135

You totally missed it. But I dont think you want to understand. Seems you are at the rhett o rick Jul 2013 #140

Thank you, Madame. Appreciate the voice of reason Number23 Jul 2013 #61

Exactly, madame.. Please proceed with the constructive "criticism".. and then Cha Jul 2013 #97

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #102

Although i agree with your post in essence... tex-wyo-dem Jul 2013 #117

I heartily agree and BlueMTexpat Jul 2013 #126

Agreed. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #127

glee? I hardly think so. tomp Jul 2013 #137

I agree with your vision of DU, but I also like those who disagree. nt ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #3

It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it... kentuck Jul 2013 #4

All our elected officials should be held accountable no matter what their party. Cleita Jul 2013 #5

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." n/t Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #7

Happy 4th WilliamPitt malaise Jul 2013 #8

Posting is holding a President's feet to the fire? merrily Jul 2013 #12

It's more of a narrative nolabels Jul 2013 #14

If it leads one to act WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #19

Leads to one act by the President? Has it? merrily Jul 2013 #41

posting here is generally intended to sway opinion here.... tomp Jul 2013 #139

Lots of reasons to post, but holding the feet of the most powerful man on earth to the fire is not merrily Jul 2013 #144

Once upon a time... WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #145

Two different and separate issues. merrily Jul 2013 #146

Big clouds gather around small particles. WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #147

Again, civic action and holding the feet of the POTUS to the fire are two different things. merrily Jul 2013 #148

Maybe it's called "Leading From Behind". n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #87

Nice post. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #15

Well said. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #16

you never loved him... warrprayer Jul 2013 #17

I remember that oath well. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #18

perfectly put....thanks, and Happy 4th! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #20

What do you have against circle jerks? bunnies Jul 2013 #21

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #22

Ow. WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #25

FWIW, I think that poster was saying that was what you wrote in your OP. Not telling you to uppityperson Jul 2013 #39

^^^^uppity^^^^ Hekate Jul 2013 #95

Thanks uppity.. there's no way that should have been hidden. Cha Jul 2013 #100

Honestly I think President Obama has a lot thicker skin than some give him credit for... bluesbassman Jul 2013 #30

I agree. Gore1FL Jul 2013 #32

Holding his feet to the fire is one thing Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #33

Like I said, WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #36

Except.. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #42

The tribulations of being in power. WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #45

God, yes. Who remembers 2008? 2004? Recursion Jul 2013 #38

I've been here since Heathen57 Jul 2013 #46

Hear! Hear! +1 Heathen57 Jul 2013 #43

Slow down, William ............. dothemath Jul 2013 #48

Ow. WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #51

Yew old grumpy bunny stomper L0oniX Jul 2013 #70

Yuck... malokvale77 Jul 2013 #59

Actually, no. DU has NOT always been like this. OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #54

K&R forestpath Jul 2013 #58

This all sounds very wise! AnnieK401 Jul 2013 #60

I suppose we could be like the old radio Albania who would deliver emotional diatribes Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #62

Well, okay then. Kurovski Jul 2013 #63

Let's all go over to a cooking forum and jump on an omelet recipe. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #64

Happy Independence Day, Will. bvar22 Jul 2013 #65

I have to disagree Skittles Jul 2013 #66

So true! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #81

What's Kerry's position on Snowden, Will? michigandem58 Jul 2013 #68

I'm game for supporting and Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #69

DU - wise ....and otherwise underpants Jul 2013 #71

+1000 great post!! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #72

Good post, Will eom TransitJohn Jul 2013 #74

Happy Independence Day! We Zorra Jul 2013 #76

What's sad is that you had to write this. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #79

Agree. Have a great holiday. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #93

A Declaration of Independence K&R felix_numinous Jul 2013 #82

Nailed.It.Again. marble falls Jul 2013 #83

That's nice burnodo Jul 2013 #85

Rec & Bookmarked. nt Ilsa Jul 2013 #88

kr HiPointDem Jul 2013 #90

Same as it ever was... Ellipsis Jul 2013 #94

fine with that bigtree Jul 2013 #99

Mahalo bigtree! "Critics need to have a tough skin too if they're Cha Jul 2013 #106

Thank you. n/t bitchkitty Jul 2013 #103

Restore the 4th National Protest pmorlan1 Jul 2013 #105

Thank you for that KelleyKramer Jul 2013 #108

Yes, I'll have a great Fourth of July, Will, and a big part of that Cha Jul 2013 #109

+1 blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #110

Advanced Citizenship. BillyRibs Jul 2013 #114

With respect HCE SuiGeneris Jul 2013 #115

WilliamPitt.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #116

rec, rec, a thousand times rec! nt tex-wyo-dem Jul 2013 #118

If you criticize a Democratic President for continuing a program started by a reviled Republican one Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #120

Pat's still suck! trumad Jul 2013 #128

Watch what you say WilliamPitt Jul 2013 #129

Convince me, but without convictions. Convictions no longer convince me. Antonio Porchia. nt Snotcicles Jul 2013 #134

Sycophants chervilant Jul 2013 #131

I wish I could rec this post a trillion times. nevergiveup Jul 2013 #142

Thanks so much, WilliamPitt MissDeeds Jul 2013 #149