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pampango

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65. As a republican, Perot was a idiot about NAFTA and many other things.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:15 PM
Jul 2013

Long before NAFTA manufacturing output was increasing and employment was decreasing.



http://emsnews.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/nuclear-wars-and-earthquakes-increase-economic-problems/

I don't see any change in the rate of increase in manufacturing output or decrease in manufacturing employment because of NAFTA.

Moreover, every industrialized country has had the same decline in manufacturing employment; all of whom have nothing to do with NAFTA, other than Canada.



Krugman addressed the increase in manufacturing trade. It was not due to tariffs (or lack thereof).

You see the interwar trade decline; the growth in world trade after World War II didn’t return to 1913 levels of globalization until around 1970. But since then, trade has grown incredibly. Interestingly, the big tariff cuts in GATT rounds had already happened in the early 1950's; what we’re looking at here is trade liberalization in developing countries plus containerization, and the emergence of massive vertical specialization (iWhatevers being made in many stages in different countries).

No special moral here — and no, it doesn’t actually make the world flat, because services account for most value added and are still mainly not tradable. But it’s quite a picture.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/03/unprecedented-globalization/
Hillary would never think like that DJ13 Jul 2013 #1
As she disclosed here, Hillary works for the Top 6%: bvar22 Jul 2013 #2
Resorting to Obama campaign videos? Beacool Jul 2013 #3
Yeah. Firefighters with "household incomes" over $125,000/yr. bvar22 Jul 2013 #15
Nice Crow73 Jul 2013 #18
I was referring to the $96,000 mentioned in the ad. Beacool Jul 2013 #24
Your argument is NOT with me. bvar22 Jul 2013 #25
I have no argument with Hillary. Beacool Jul 2013 #26
Obama failed because DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #31
So, Obama is just a marionette? AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #66
not totally, but he listens DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #67
Obama makes his own decisions AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #68
If she runs the country DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #70
Presidencys aren't campaigns AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #73
no they are not DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #74
You sound like AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #75
And would Clinton stop the H-1B outsourcing that is keeping many of us iT folk out of work? cascadiance Jul 2013 #4
do the DLC/Third Way sycophants care? nt antigop Jul 2013 #12
They absolutely do care. They care about corporate and investor profits. stillwaiting Jul 2013 #49
+1000. They don't care about preserving good US jobs. nt antigop Jul 2013 #51
R#9 & K for, I did my time with the CLINTONs UTUSN Jul 2013 #5
That was a rather odd endorsement. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #10
agreed Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #11
Huh?!1 I didn't endorse anybody beyond wanting anybody fresh and genius, including Senator WARREN. UTUSN Jul 2013 #14
I meant it wasn't a very enthusiastic promise to support her. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #17
Well, I *did* explain why my support for hillary would be a phoning-it-in thing UTUSN Jul 2013 #22
In 1992, Ross was RIGHT, but Clinton was SMOOOOOOOTH. bvar22 Jul 2013 #16
k+r this post/vid. ..nt TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #21
I truly hate to say it DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #40
Of course, Ross was right. But DLC/Third Way sycophants don't care. nt antigop Jul 2013 #52
As a republican, Perot was a idiot about NAFTA and many other things. pampango Jul 2013 #65
Thank you for the facts bhikkhu Aug 2013 #72
You seem to know zip about the foreign policy environment we are living in now. Beacool Jul 2013 #23
I just *hate* not getting the memos, in this case, the one UTUSN Jul 2013 #29
I wasn't trying to be rude to you. Beacool Jul 2013 #45
But I suppose that you wouldn't RW-smear or personally insult me so long as I say all POSITIVE UTUSN Jul 2013 #64
YUP DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #39
You're relentless, aren't you? Beacool Jul 2013 #42
Yes I am DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #43
Now THAT is just not FAIR! bvar22 Jul 2013 #27
K&R bahrbearian Jul 2013 #6
Indeed... KoKo Jul 2013 #7
If only we could get her past the Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #8
Good god iandhr Jul 2013 #9
I think if we want a real alternative, we DO need to start talking about it now! cascadiance Jul 2013 #13
Why not just post the clip? If hrc voters are going... allin99 Jul 2013 #19
I will never work another Presidential election as long as I live Peacetrain Jul 2013 #20
I don't think Skinner is changing the rules here if Clinton wins the primaries. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #28
If.... NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #32
I'm just watching this phenomenon with amusement. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #33
I don't expect the TOS will change, either, winter is coming Jul 2013 #38
Enough of American Royalty UglyGreed Jul 2013 #30
... William769 Jul 2013 #34
I love that! NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #35
And you, stop trying to stir up trouble!!! Beacool Jul 2013 #47
Beacool!!! NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #57
I caught you "in flagranti" trying to push your gal. Beacool Jul 2013 #62
That's the best I have ever seen Autumn Jul 2013 #36
Love it!! Beacool Jul 2013 #46
One nation under Walmart. Octafish Jul 2013 #37
corporate nationhood under the TPP --Hillary played leading part antigop Jul 2013 #55
FOB Octafish Jul 2013 #59
I like both women.... PennsylvaniaMatt Jul 2013 #41
Shhh...you're making sense. Metric System Jul 2013 #44
This........ Beacool Jul 2013 #48
Make that Hillary and Bill were IMPLEMENTING those Republican policies TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #69
+1 DCBob Aug 2013 #82
I will work against Hillary mick063 Jul 2013 #50
And I will be right there beside you - and I agree with the text of your message too. 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #53
There will be more of us working for her. We're here for Hillary! (sorry, I had to) eom Metric System Jul 2013 #54
Then let it all play out mick063 Jul 2013 #56
Were the anti-Hillary people this nasty four years ago? brooklynite Jul 2013 #60
Yes, they were just as nasty. Beacool Jul 2013 #63
Maybe a lot of Hillary supporters left amuse bouche Aug 2013 #76
Is that supposed to be a good thing? Beacool Aug 2013 #78
Not at all a good thing amuse bouche Aug 2013 #81
er,with all due respect DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #71
With all due respect. Beacool Aug 2013 #79
I will admit DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #80
Hillary...Obama's third term. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #58
actually bill's 5th is truer SwampG8r Jul 2013 #61
Make that Reagan's 10th phiddle Aug 2013 #77
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