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In reply to the discussion: Dear supporters of Hillary Clinton 2016.... [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)65. As a republican, Perot was a idiot about NAFTA and many other things.
Long before NAFTA manufacturing output was increasing and employment was decreasing.
http://emsnews.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/nuclear-wars-and-earthquakes-increase-economic-problems/
I don't see any change in the rate of increase in manufacturing output or decrease in manufacturing employment because of NAFTA.
Moreover, every industrialized country has had the same decline in manufacturing employment; all of whom have nothing to do with NAFTA, other than Canada.
Krugman addressed the increase in manufacturing trade. It was not due to tariffs (or lack thereof).
You see the interwar trade decline; the growth in world trade after World War II didnt return to 1913 levels of globalization until around 1970. But since then, trade has grown incredibly. Interestingly, the big tariff cuts in GATT rounds had already happened in the early 1950's; what were looking at here is trade liberalization in developing countries plus containerization, and the emergence of massive vertical specialization (iWhatevers being made in many stages in different countries).
No special moral here and no, it doesnt actually make the world flat, because services account for most value added and are still mainly not tradable. But its quite a picture.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/03/unprecedented-globalization/
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And would Clinton stop the H-1B outsourcing that is keeping many of us iT folk out of work?
cascadiance
Jul 2013
#4
Huh?!1 I didn't endorse anybody beyond wanting anybody fresh and genius, including Senator WARREN.
UTUSN
Jul 2013
#14
You seem to know zip about the foreign policy environment we are living in now.
Beacool
Jul 2013
#23
But I suppose that you wouldn't RW-smear or personally insult me so long as I say all POSITIVE
UTUSN
Jul 2013
#64
I think if we want a real alternative, we DO need to start talking about it now!
cascadiance
Jul 2013
#13
I don't think Skinner is changing the rules here if Clinton wins the primaries.
Starry Messenger
Jul 2013
#28
And I will be right there beside you - and I agree with the text of your message too.
1-Old-Man
Jul 2013
#53
There will be more of us working for her. We're here for Hillary! (sorry, I had to) eom
Metric System
Jul 2013
#54