The "professional left": a bunch of "firebaggers"

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27. Yep... It would have been like saying that only "firebaggers" objected to Bill Clinton's cheating..

... because they were somehow "aligned" with those on the right that were attacking and impeaching Clinton for doing so.

I can feel that what Bill Clinton did as a husband and a father in having those "adventures" being wrong and at the same time feel overall he was still a decent president, and not deserving of the crap that the right was using this issue to try and go after him and bring him down. This issue was between him and Hillary and Chelsea to work out. It certainly isn't something, when public, that I would like to vote for in a candidate, but when I looked at his presidency with that in context, what he did was certainly far better than what we would have had with Bush or Dole in power instead.

There were also some legislative things that Clinton did that I also didn't like either (like signing NAFTA and the Telecomm bill in to law), and would critique him for the reasons that maybe Ross Perot would on the former issue, not the way Republicans would have attacked him on issues like that for partisan reasons.

I know that for some in the Republican Party, they are attacking Obama on things like what the NSA is doing on a partisan basis (and probably would support Bush in the same situations earlier). But just because their critique coincides with mine that what NSA is doing is WRONG, does not make me an Obama "hater" that maybe a motivation for them. Nor does my taking a similar view that Lou Dobbs did over Hillary Clinton's problematic stance on H-1B Visas make me a "Hillary hater" or perhaps take the same partisan stances that Dobbs takes on many other issues as well.

I'm sure I probably would strongly disagree with Snowden's other more libertarian views on other issues, but I feel he is right on on the need to make sure that our domestic spying doesn't throw out the 4th amendment of our constitution and all of our civil liberties, etc. with it.

Those of us Democrats that try to sweep up everyone they disagree with because they take a more partisan view of winning elections for democrats and not on issues, in my book aren't much better than many Republicans that put party before country as well during the Bush years. We can do better than that. We NEED to do better than that!