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Qutzupalotl

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24. You've hit on an effective strategy for changing minds,
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 05:21 PM
Aug 2013

namely telling them they've been lied to. That avoids the defense mechanism of denial and makes you an ally with them against those who have lied to them. This can work on an individual level, one-to-one, but I don't see it happening on a large scale; so I'd have to come down on the A side. But that is no reason not to use it on a small scale.

Our differences are more cultural than ideological. Sure, the leaders are ideologues, but average RW voters vote for people who look and talk like them. They choose their congregation over what they see as hippies on our side. And it is a war to them, with the other side embodying everything evil.

Why do they vote against their interests? Two reasons. One is that they don't see the economic argument. But the other reason is that they are driven by religious zealotry; they are willing to sacrifice even their own economic benefit if they can elect people they think are "pure." So they don't mind keeping their own wages stagnant as long as taxes don't rise and the evil "baby killers" are not in power.

A. No realization. No revolt. MrSlayer Aug 2013 #1
A. No realization, no revolt. djean111 Aug 2013 #2
They're not going to figure it out. jeff47 Aug 2013 #3
Easy. They will always do whatever is easiest. n/t dogknob Aug 2013 #22
Useful Idiots. Blue Idaho Aug 2013 #4
People who let themselves be duped, like RepubliSuckers, often hate to admit they have been suckered Berlum Aug 2013 #5
These people have been voting against their sufrommich Aug 2013 #6
With all respect to your friends Savannahmann Aug 2013 #7
It did happen in 2006 BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #8
A. Not going to happen CANDO Aug 2013 #9
It should be obvious... Phillyindy Aug 2013 #10
No, won't ever happen. The GOP was smart enough to appeal............. wandy Aug 2013 #11
People get smart? Won't happen. immoderate Aug 2013 #12
A. No realization of being had and no revolt Lugnut Aug 2013 #13
Remember the Tea Bagger Chant from 2003 Bandit Aug 2013 #14
they are already revolting Skittles Aug 2013 #15
I think some portion of the Repugs will but the rest will not steve2470 Aug 2013 #16
No realization of being had and no revolt. Stupidity is rampant in the US, especially PA. AlinPA Aug 2013 #17
Without intending to hijack your thread, I think Lenin's distinction between a class 'in itself' and HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #18
No realization. No Revolt. LiberalAndProud Aug 2013 #19
Sweeping change is inevitable mick063 Aug 2013 #20
Two things would have to happen first. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #21
A) Look at southern states Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #23
You've hit on an effective strategy for changing minds, Qutzupalotl Aug 2013 #24
The vast majority of "republican" 1awake Aug 2013 #25
A. No realization of being had and no revolt Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2013 #26
Doesn't look like you're going to ask that other question. CrispyQ Aug 2013 #27
There will be no massive revolt notadmblnd Aug 2013 #28
Option A. GentryDixon Aug 2013 #29
B. bravenak Aug 2013 #30
I think that some will never come to the realization, but some definitely will. There will be a Cal33 Aug 2013 #31
I choose Option "C": fear of revolt, leading to change. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #32
It will happen when they have no money, no job when they're 65. And they won't be blaming themselves reformist2 Aug 2013 #33
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