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In reply to the discussion: Your anti-Obama memes are wearing thin. [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and tossing the same "anti-" charges/turds like you have some unassailable standing to be trying to shame his critics on this and that. Hell, you don't even have any material with sufficient merit to get the job done. It's our duty to "hold his feet to the fire" as he requested.
Oh my, what's next, the guy chose to run for pres while wholly ignorant of what the political environment and topography was, so we can't make mention of the diffs between the candidate and the reality?
Too many of us have been interested in defending programs as written in 1938″
http://americablog.com/2012/05/obama-2006-too-many-of-us-have-been-interested-in-defending-programs-as-written-in-1938.html Does that sound like someone who's done more to advance the liberal "cause" than any "pres in history" or one who wants to turn the clock back on gains already made?
Some of us voted for him with our eyes wide open realizing he wasn't the "liberal" you paint him as, http://www.policymic.com/articles/13232/top-5-reasons-obama-is-not-a-true-liberal and primarily because he was preferred over the alternative. And speaking only for myself, always the biggy, SCOTUS appointments.
Gee, who but a "unitary exec" kinda guy would claim the right in defiance of the congress, the UN, and the will of the American people if need be, to start bombing another country, or to assassinate American citizens? Even Bush didn't go there.
And it's not been a question of "wanting it all now" but rather keeping what we once had or have, which is hard to reasonably expect with the "third way" types who need to evolve in a conveniently timely way on things like gay rights.
If real liberals lack "patience" it's with people like you that seemingly think "liberalism" is defined as being satisfied with whatever form and frequency the bones come in, and without complaint.
Defenders of the policies of President Barack Obama have correctly pointed to the difficult circumstances he and the nation faced when he entered office and the dim intransigence of Congressional Republicans while they fail to address that his actual policies have derived almost exclusively from the political-economic theories of neo-liberalismthe economics of the radical right. And as Mr. Obama moves his policy proposals for his second term forward what is once again apparent is that both the policies and his articulation of them are from the radical right. His proposals to shutter Federal housing agency stalwarts Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, his use of dubious legal opinions to consolidate the power of the Executive and to justify the murder of citizens and non-citizens without due process, his support for trade agreements that effectively hand domestic governance over to multi-national corporations, his growth of an intrusive surveillance state and pompous dismissal of criticism of it and his stuffing his cabinet and likely the Federal Reserve Chairmanship with neo-liberal ideologues all confirm that the policies of his first term were not a product of circumstance, but rather the coherent implementation of a radical-right agenda.http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/16/barack-obama-and-the-neo-liberal-coup/
liberal my ass. The only "baby steps" most of us older lefties are concerned about are those that drug the ideological center line so far to the right, leaving so many young guppies thinking it was always where it is today. If you don't like us standing in the way of that with our "complaints", too bad. We welcome opportunities like this to "force" our "opinions" on you.