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Eleanors38

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39. One of the problems with reaction to killings is a feeling of moral high ground
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:35 PM
Sep 2013

that allows the easy condemnation of others when their outrage fails to meet the expectation of others. That alone can get folks in line.

You may not give a f--- about gun types, but those proposing bans sure do. It was the ban tactic of choice for months after Sandy Hook.

Politicians don't speculate on the influence of those who aren't in line, be it for voting or gun purchases. They DO pay attention to those who act. You agree?

"Hard to relate to?" Are you saying they were quite everyday for those in the Beltway? Perhaps. I don't consider their lives any less important than those of children, however. And I don't think Alexis' world was any more removed from reality than "others" like Lanza.

I think I dealt with the myth/reality of routine-ization clearly enough, and enough respondents here seem to agree there is a fatigue factor involved. Perhaps you disagree. Again, mass murders are different in character from other killings, and "too many guns" or 75% fewer is unlikely to stop these kinds of killings. Again, you may disagree.

See my post 28. Maybe that better sums up why for some the response to the Navy Yard killing was different. Do you agree? It goes to your main contention.

Probably because little children were slaughtered at Sandy Hook elementary school. Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #1
"I would have expected the Navy Yard shooting to cause more interest in discussing gun control." geomon666 Sep 2013 #2
because the military cannot even protect its own despite having armed guards? nt msongs Sep 2013 #3
They dont have armed guards. Few if any people on military bases are armed at any given moment. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #29
I heard there was an armed guard here. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #42
Perhaps one involving elementary-school children may have been a factor. Posteritatis Sep 2013 #4
Because the NRA won, and we know we can't beat them. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #5
Yes we can ... it will take time, but we will etherealtruth Sep 2013 #22
I can't figure that one myself. When the gun laws actually doc03 Sep 2013 #6
I inquired of this in the Gungeon... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #13
18 USC 922 bans sale of handguns to out of state buyers. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #14
So that leaves the question about the long guns up in the air. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #15
It depends on the state. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #20
What I'm thinking. Shotguns can be as effective aso a pistol or rifle Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #21
Minnesota requires a handgun permit to purchase an AR-15 NickB79 Sep 2013 #37
The report I heard was he tried out an AR-15 but couldn't buy it doc03 Sep 2013 #24
That report got retracted. There is no VA law on rifles. nt NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #43
Since they are so damned expensive maybe he just didn't have the money. He couldn't doc03 Sep 2013 #44
It appears that the guy obeyed the laws already on the books The Straight Story Sep 2013 #7
The argument that better enforcement of current laws doesn't apply here Kaleva Sep 2013 #17
Because after Sandy Hook we decided that even dead kids won't matter, why should some office people? thereismore Sep 2013 #8
Pretty much this. Hayabusa Sep 2013 #27
We could also be suffering from massive shooting of the week fatigue Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #9
What is ridiculous about my contentions & speculations? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #12
Well, let's see: IveWornAHundredPants Sep 2013 #33
One of the problems with reaction to killings is a feeling of moral high ground Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #39
Dead kids. nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #10
ahem RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #11
Because our nation has not reached that magical number of fallen victims, yet. Someone Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #16
Sadly, I don't think one town would do it. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #31
The first few times you get a blister, but after that you get a callous and it doesn't hurt anymore. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #18
Learned helplessness? Sense of futility? Ennui? AngryOldDem Sep 2013 #19
Curiously, a tenet of gun control is "more guns = more crime"... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #28
The gun control tenet is "more guns = more gun deaths" and the stats all show that stevenleser Sep 2013 #32
The US as a whole is one huge outlier NickB79 Sep 2013 #38
The problem with your premise is that there are those who want to prevent mass killings, mythology Sep 2013 #23
You make some good points, but the OP was about the interest Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #25
Because the "looming shutdown... be afraid!" serves the right wing MSM better? DJ13 Sep 2013 #26
I offer a different reason for lack of debate in #28. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #30
That works too DJ13 Sep 2013 #34
By design. Robb Sep 2013 #35
"MORE guns" doesn't seem to be a big phenomenon this time. Why? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #40
What's left that hasn't... 99Forever Sep 2013 #36
Par of it because it happened at a Navy yard. Incitatus Sep 2013 #41
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