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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
49. +1 and good luck with the family's health. This GOP says, we'll fund 99% but not Obamacare.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 01:58 AM
Sep 2013

Which has already been debated, voted on, passed in spite of death threats, signed into law, ruled Consitutional and also settled as doing the will of the people in the 2012 elections.

The GOP has no right to hold all of us hostage for the 'crime' of daring to want our government to do the right thing and save lives. This is just another of their attacks on the poor. They are the death panel, the cullers of the herd, the face of fascism. They want us to have no recourse but to beg them and their bosses for all of the necessities of life, on their terms.

People need to remember in November of 2014 and 2016 the low esteem in which they hold our lives and futures. Here are a few links to what we're dealing with here, and why, although I won't get ACA coverage and have neither private or free insurance, I support it because these people are going to kill us off and I want you to have coverage.

There are several threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023750451

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023750491

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3750090

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023750081

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023743940

As far as a certain thread titled 'Obama should take the deal' or something, I didn't click on it, if that is what you are referrring to in this thread. Because the GOP is playing a game, it's not just about Obamacare and there is no negotiating with them.

If Obama did 'take the deal' that would hurt tens of millions, he'd be called spjneless and caving, most likely. But he never was, and he isn't now.

I can't fathom why DUers would want to leave tens of millions without insurance of any kind, when the GOP is offering no alternatives in return. And from their track record, they woud just as soon we died off..

As far as UHC, Obamacare is the first step. For some this is exactly the same as UHC. They will be covered on on Medicaid without any sort of payment. These are the poorest amongst us, isn't that who we care about here?

This shut down isn't just about the ACA, it's about destroying democratic governance. They want to negate our votes, they want to subjugate us to unelected rulers. it's a coup in slow motion.

No matter what happens, on Tuesday your family gets the chance that so many others have now. Best wishes to you.

Are there DUers who advocate delaying Obamacare? Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #1
nope joshcryer Sep 2013 #3
Yep. Nye Bevan Sep 2013 #7
Wow. I keep seeing things here Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #10
zero recs joshcryer Sep 2013 #20
Hard to imagine any of our own here reccing THAT pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #36
Yeah, I'm actually enjoying the unity. joshcryer Sep 2013 #45
Yo tambien, Josh. nm Cha Sep 2013 #50
Shameful position for any Democrat/Liberal/Progressive to take. Scuba Sep 2013 #32
Wait......What site am I on? busterbrown Sep 2013 #39
No, not specifically, but people have said that they'd just take the penalty. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #8
If they choose to ignore the mandate sobenji Sep 2013 #12
Exactly, fuck anyone who has to choose food or rent over insurance Fumesucker Sep 2013 #14
Yeah, that sounded harsh after I read it sobenji Sep 2013 #18
A lot of people won't get the subsidies and won't get Medicaid and Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #22
Although I cannot imagine being without health insurance, Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #13
K & R fadedrose Sep 2013 #2
I know you ask for the uninsured, I happen to be on Medicare, been insured during my life but I Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #4
I don't think I've seen that particular opinion on the DU Fumesucker Sep 2013 #5
I have not seen any people wanting to wait a year. I know I can't wait until it fully goes into appleannie1 Sep 2013 #6
Even my Republican father likes it... richmwill Sep 2013 #9
Wow - that is great! Thanks for sharing with us :) Tx4obama Sep 2013 #15
awesome !!!!!! nt steve2470 Sep 2013 #16
That is awesome! TBF Sep 2013 #54
I hear you! BlueToTheBone Sep 2013 #11
I am insured ... I do NOT support delaying Obama care etherealtruth Sep 2013 #17
I don't want Obamacare delayed, I just want it improved. MrsKirkley Sep 2013 #19
I do need the ACA but I still support its implementation in October 2013. gordianot Sep 2013 #21
Best thing I've read on DU in ages: kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #23
Subsidy Calculator Premium Assistance for Coverage in Exchanges donco Sep 2013 #24
Options for anyone in that situation MrsKirkley Sep 2013 #26
And you change that % of poverty to 103%.... mwooldri Sep 2013 #41
I am and I believe it is a terrible law. You will soon understand why. duffyduff Sep 2013 #25
Medicare was equally awful at first Warpy Sep 2013 #27
In my County in Northern Calif., we can choose between three different truedelphi Sep 2013 #29
The law can be fixed if Democrats regain majority in the House. MrsKirkley Sep 2013 #31
If you cannot afford the premiums, the ACA says you can obtain an exclusion from it under lostincalifornia Sep 2013 #34
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #58
I will soon understand this: burnsei sensei Sep 2013 #40
Of course single payer is the way to go, but I would suggest that it would take much longer to reach lostincalifornia Sep 2013 #59
everyone at DU is aware this is a peak time for troll attacks re Obamacare ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #44
WTF are you talking about? hedda_foil Sep 2013 #46
It it completely asinine to say that Obamacare sucks because max deductibles are too high. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #52
I'm insured and I don't think it should be delayed. SheilaT Sep 2013 #28
I'm going to be uninsured, but I don't want it delayed Travis_0004 Sep 2013 #30
not even catastrophic coverage? ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #43
Sadly I think many young folks will approach it that way TBF Sep 2013 #55
I will look into catastrophic coverage, so I'm undecided how I'm going to go. Travis_0004 Sep 2013 #57
I think many people are skeptical madville Sep 2013 #33
True, however, being 10000 dollars in debt is better than being hundreds of thousands of dollars in lostincalifornia Sep 2013 #38
Complete agreement, stopbush n/t Alkene Sep 2013 #35
Fuck that. Phlem Sep 2013 #37
tell these people to just hold in their cancer for another year ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #42
Do not negotiate with the GOP terrorists. Rex Sep 2013 #47
If you think they want to delay it in order to fix it, 6000eliot Sep 2013 #48
+1 and good luck with the family's health. This GOP says, we'll fund 99% but not Obamacare. freshwest Sep 2013 #49
there are DU'rs advocating that for real? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #51
We need Medicare for all - TBF Sep 2013 #53
Probably not many... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #56
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