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In reply to the discussion: How Many DUers Advocating Delaying Obamacare Are Themselves Currently Uninsured? [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)Which has already been debated, voted on, passed in spite of death threats, signed into law, ruled Consitutional and also settled as doing the will of the people in the 2012 elections.
The GOP has no right to hold all of us hostage for the 'crime' of daring to want our government to do the right thing and save lives. This is just another of their attacks on the poor. They are the death panel, the cullers of the herd, the face of fascism. They want us to have no recourse but to beg them and their bosses for all of the necessities of life, on their terms.
People need to remember in November of 2014 and 2016 the low esteem in which they hold our lives and futures. Here are a few links to what we're dealing with here, and why, although I won't get ACA coverage and have neither private or free insurance, I support it because these people are going to kill us off and I want you to have coverage.
There are several threads:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023750451
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023750491
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3750090
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023750081
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023743940
As far as a certain thread titled 'Obama should take the deal' or something, I didn't click on it, if that is what you are referrring to in this thread. Because the GOP is playing a game, it's not just about Obamacare and there is no negotiating with them.
If Obama did 'take the deal' that would hurt tens of millions, he'd be called spjneless and caving, most likely. But he never was, and he isn't now.
I can't fathom why DUers would want to leave tens of millions without insurance of any kind, when the GOP is offering no alternatives in return. And from their track record, they woud just as soon we died off..
As far as UHC, Obamacare is the first step. For some this is exactly the same as UHC. They will be covered on on Medicaid without any sort of payment. These are the poorest amongst us, isn't that who we care about here?
This shut down isn't just about the ACA, it's about destroying democratic governance. They want to negate our votes, they want to subjugate us to unelected rulers. it's a coup in slow motion.
No matter what happens, on Tuesday your family gets the chance that so many others have now. Best wishes to you.