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BainsBane

(53,003 posts)
74. Guns.com?
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 10:57 AM
Oct 2013


Anyone can make up a bullshit graph on their computer. Without a source, it's meaningless. If there really is a site called guns.com and that's where you got it, it's truly hysterical that you think that invalidates a study in the American Journal of Medicine.

Gunners are a hoot.
Text from the study in the American Journal of Medicine BainsBane Oct 2013 #1
But more gun violence is a good thing! Turbineguy Oct 2013 #2
Their argument is that more guns prevent violence BainsBane Oct 2013 #3
Good God! That's like saying telclaven Oct 2013 #4
Those are human lives you are mocking BainsBane Oct 2013 #5
It's a stupid title for a research document telclaven Oct 2013 #6
It's the American Journal of Medicine BainsBane Oct 2013 #7
I realize it's the JofM telclaven Oct 2013 #8
The title is the piece on the Real News Network BainsBane Oct 2013 #9
You are absolutely correct and I apologize telclaven Oct 2013 #71
I can tell you suck at giving presentations and should be repremanded (sic) Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #21
What did you get your PhD in, and what sort of articles have you had published in a kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #37
Don't have a PhD, never said I did telclaven Oct 2013 #69
Then don't presume to tell PhD's how to title their published work. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #79
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #84
Wow etherealtruth Oct 2013 #42
How do they feel about your spelling? nt NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #61
Dunno telclaven Oct 2013 #70
interesting Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #31
"Declining" understates it: it has collapsed over the past 20 years Recursion Oct 2013 #35
which totally Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #38
Does it? I've seen no compelling data from anyone on actual gun ownership rates Recursion Oct 2013 #39
No, it doesn't BainsBane Oct 2013 #44
"Fewer young men, fewer homicides." EX500rider Oct 2013 #53
I used to be anti-science too on the occasions it illustrated my scared cows in a negative light. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #49
Scared cows? pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #66
uh yeah. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #20
I'd like to lower both car ownership and gun ownership rates Recursion Oct 2013 #30
You do understand that your point in no way refutes his, right? nt eqfan592 Oct 2013 #94
You hit the nail on the head. eqfan592 Oct 2013 #93
The hammer has now been given the hammer Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #95
These graphs don't seem to agree with that data: EX500rider Oct 2013 #10
In what way? BainsBane Oct 2013 #11
Well then are firearms the cause or the income levels and other factors? EX500rider Oct 2013 #12
Read the study BainsBane Oct 2013 #14
You realize there can be more than one cause, right? Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #16
Evidently BainsBane Oct 2013 #17
Nuance is not often of much concern to the irreparably dense. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #57
The study argues more guns = more firearm deaths JonLP24 Oct 2013 #26
"more guns = more firearm deaths" EX500rider Oct 2013 #54
The study narrowly focuses on firearm deaths JonLP24 Oct 2013 #55
This is made with the assumption that there is literally no other variable at play in gun deaths. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #58
"In what way?" EX500rider Oct 2013 #13
that is a table--not a greaph. Your table is bogus Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #23
Bogus? EX500rider Oct 2013 #51
Guns.com? BainsBane Oct 2013 #74
Right, bad source so it must be bullshit? EX500rider Oct 2013 #85
gotta source those graphs.. G_j Oct 2013 #40
Question.. is someone more or less dead based on their income? Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #67
That compares overall homicides, not gun violence Recursion Oct 2013 #29
Yes and gun murders would be even a smaller percentage.. EX500rider Oct 2013 #52
"Gun violence" includes suicide Recursion Oct 2013 #60
We beat Kenya!!! Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #86
In related finding, increase in trampolines leads to more trampoline-related injuries Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #15
And more alcohol means more Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #27
I'll click the link JonLP24 Oct 2013 #18
You want to click the link at the bottom to see the actual study BainsBane Oct 2013 #19
Thanks JonLP24 Oct 2013 #24
sporting purposes AustinActivist435 Oct 2013 #22
And more car means more car deaths. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #25
way to bring anecdotal evidence to an empirical evidence fight Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #28
My way of pointing out that they leave out DGUs. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #32
Yes, we do know BainsBane Oct 2013 #45
The study has the same flaw that all the anti-gun studies share. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #33
Not sure there are any data to back up your claim Recursion Oct 2013 #34
Moreover, they work to make sure illegal gun owners aren't kept from BainsBane Oct 2013 #46
Where is the evidence that the study authors are "anti-gun to begin with?" Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #43
Without dividing the ownership into the two classes, the data is meaningless. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #48
The study IS concerned with suicide rates and unintentional firearm related deaths. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #50
That's a meaningless distinction Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #47
are most suicides done with illegal guns? CreekDog Oct 2013 #56
Answers: GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #62
your RW slant is relevant here. when you disagree with us on almost everything, that matters CreekDog Oct 2013 #82
So all you have is personal attack. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #83
I think you miss the point. High *legal* gun rates = high gun violence. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #72
Is an illegal gun owner someone who can't pass a background check? Hoyt Oct 2013 #78
Not the first study to show the connection, but the gun fetishists are joeybee12 Oct 2013 #36
we have more gun deaths G_j Oct 2013 #41
And water makes things wet LittleBlue Oct 2013 #59
Yeah, I didn't figure you'd bother to read the study BainsBane Oct 2013 #65
I read about this study last month LittleBlue Oct 2013 #68
Old stuff. Why re-runs? nt Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #63
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #64
The study has been posted in DU before. It's old. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #73
You really are an extremely nasty person. MicaelS Oct 2013 #75
+1,000,000. nt. polly7 Oct 2013 #76
"Anger, bile, . . . . . hate" is also exemplified by one strapping a gun on to venture into public. Hoyt Oct 2013 #80
Only in your mind. n/t MicaelS Oct 2013 #81
No, we don't think that. n/t EX500rider Oct 2013 #88
Well you should. Hoyt Oct 2013 #91
Why? n/t EX500rider Oct 2013 #92
Exactly - People Die .... otohara Oct 2013 #77
CDC study ordered by Obama. "Ten Surprising Findings From a New Report on Gun Violence" NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #87
"It's time for DU members to have an adult conversation" EX500rider Oct 2013 #89
Ha! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #90
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