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BelgianMadCow

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Mon Oct 21, 2013, 04:52 AM Oct 2013

‘Unacceptable and shocking’: France demands explanation for NSA spying [View all]

from RT, but here's the Le Monde front page piece.

“The revelations on Le Monde are shocking and demand adequate explanations from the American authorities in the coming hours,” said Valls on television channel Europe 1.

He went on to say that it is totally unacceptable for an allied country to spy on France.
Le Monde revealed in a report based on the security leaks of former CIA worker Edward Snowden that the NSA recorded 70.3 million phone calls between December 10, 2012, and January 8, 2013.

The NSA reportedly carries out its espionage in France using a program called ‘US-985D’ which is able to listen in on specific telephone calls and pick up on text messages according to key words used.

Moreover, Le Monde also wrote that it had reason to believe that the spying was not just limited to citizens suspected of being involved in terrorism. According to the data released by Snowden the NSA also eavesdropped on politicians and prominent business figures.


What I wonder is, when are business people across the globe gonna raise their voice in the NSA debate?
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Good Question cantbeserious Oct 2013 #1
What does this mean for trade secret protection and patent violations? JDPriestly Oct 2013 #2
Not to mention... ReRe Oct 2013 #6
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #3
The outrage is obligatory skepticscott Oct 2013 #4
Le Monde began working on the Snowden documents in August apparently JDPriestly Oct 2013 #7
France hoovers up 70 million of our phone calls every month? Ace Acme Oct 2013 #28
Since I didn't say that skepticscott Oct 2013 #31
You said "France gathers intelligence on their allies just as we do." Ace Acme Oct 2013 #32
Since you seem to have trouble skepticscott Oct 2013 #37
There's gathering intelligence and gathering intelligence Ace Acme Oct 2013 #43
Ah, so then there is some level of spying skepticscott Oct 2013 #48
No, not even fucking close to "just as we do". duh. cali Oct 2013 #36
See post 37 skepticscott Oct 2013 #38
it's your head that's under water, my friend cali Oct 2013 #40
Try again skepticscott Oct 2013 #47
Every world citizen dotymed Oct 2013 #5
And published just as Kerry arrives in France. Coincidence? Not again. randome Oct 2013 #8
Damn that Greenwald, how dare he... JackRiddler Oct 2013 #11
He has an agenda. That becomes more and more obvious. randome Oct 2013 #17
How about this, it is one thing to spy on someone! mrdmk Oct 2013 #18
Keeping copies of phone metadata does not equal 'spying' to me. randome Oct 2013 #19
A government keeping separate records for whatever use in the present and or future mrdmk Oct 2013 #27
They didn't get caught treestar Oct 2013 #42
Good call. ucrdem Oct 2013 #12
Did they ever give an explanation for their spying? jeff47 Oct 2013 #9
Two wrongs don't make a right BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #10
But they do make hypocrisy. jeff47 Oct 2013 #13
Fair enough, but BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #15
There's no indication it stopped. jeff47 Oct 2013 #16
Now you're getting it skepticscott Oct 2013 #20
Phony bullshit? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #21
It's phony diplomatic bullshit skepticscott Oct 2013 #24
False equivilence is the media strategy newthinking Oct 2013 #35
I agree that much if not all of the diplomatic outrage from the EU rings hollow, but BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #22
Update: 70 million calls intercepted in a month, French foreign minister requests US ambassador BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #14
Is it time for Freedom Fries again? Those French ingrates! Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #23
Jay Carney gave a perfect explanation for it today. I hope they were tuning in. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #25
Update: "US admits: French surveillance revelations raise 'legitimate questions" BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #26
We've been spying on the French for 250 years treestar Oct 2013 #29
Spying on the French and hoovering up 70 million calls a month are two different propositions Ace Acme Oct 2013 #33
Spying is spying treestar Oct 2013 #41
The difference is huge when improved technology allows wholesale surveillance of innocent people Ace Acme Oct 2013 #44
Who said proportionate amount of innocent people treestar Oct 2013 #45
That's ridiculous Ace Acme Oct 2013 #46
K&R I see the propaganda apologism machine has been here. nt woo me with science Oct 2013 #30
OOppss? Rex Oct 2013 #34
DURec leftstreet Oct 2013 #39
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