Le Monde began working on the Snowden documents in August apparently (Reply #7)

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Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:46 AM

JDPriestly (57,936 posts)

7. Le Monde began working on the Snowden documents in August apparently

and was, following instructions from Greenwald and Snowden, careful not to publish any details that might harm US security interests.

Here is a very brief excerpt from what Le Monde said in its editorial on the Snowden revelations regarding France.

The freedom to communicate and to benefit from secrecy in one's correspondence is a cornerstone of functioning democracies. The systematic intrusion in private lives is the mark of totalitarian systems, as the film, "The Lives of Others" which described the Stasi's operations in East Germany reminds us. . . . .

La liberté de communiquer et de bénéficier du secret de la correspondance est une pierre angulaire du fonctionnement des démocraties. L'intrusion systématique dans la vie privée est le propre des systèmes totalitaires, comme a pu le rappeler le film La vie des autres décrivant l'appareil de la Stasi en Allemagne de l'Est. . . . .

http://www.lemonde.fr/technologies/article/2013/10/21/editorial-du-monde-combattre-big-brother_3499858_651865.html

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48 replies	Author	Time	Post
‘Unacceptable and shocking’: France demands explanation for NSA spying [View all]	BelgianMadCow	Oct 2013	OP
Good Question	cantbeserious	Oct 2013	#1
What does this mean for trade secret protection and patent violations?	JDPriestly	Oct 2013	#2
Not to mention...	ReRe	Oct 2013	#6
k&r for exposure. n/t	Laelth	Oct 2013	#3
The outrage is obligatory	skepticscott	Oct 2013	#4
Le Monde began working on the Snowden documents in August apparently	JDPriestly	Oct 2013	#7
France hoovers up 70 million of our phone calls every month?	Ace Acme	Oct 2013	#28
Since I didn't say that	skepticscott	Oct 2013	#31
You said "France gathers intelligence on their allies just as we do."	Ace Acme	Oct 2013	#32
Since you seem to have trouble	skepticscott	Oct 2013	#37
There's gathering intelligence and gathering intelligence	Ace Acme	Oct 2013	#43
Ah, so then there is some level of spying	skepticscott	Oct 2013	#48
No, not even fucking close to "just as we do". duh.	cali	Oct 2013	#36
See post 37	skepticscott	Oct 2013	#38
it's your head that's under water, my friend	cali	Oct 2013	#40
Try again	skepticscott	Oct 2013	#47
Every world citizen	dotymed	Oct 2013	#5
And published just as Kerry arrives in France. Coincidence? Not again.	randome	Oct 2013	#8
Damn that Greenwald, how dare he...	JackRiddler	Oct 2013	#11
He has an agenda. That becomes more and more obvious.	randome	Oct 2013	#17
How about this, it is one thing to spy on someone!	mrdmk	Oct 2013	#18
Keeping copies of phone metadata does not equal 'spying' to me.	randome	Oct 2013	#19
A government keeping separate records for whatever use in the present and or future	mrdmk	Oct 2013	#27
They didn't get caught	treestar	Oct 2013	#42
Good call.	ucrdem	Oct 2013	#12
Did they ever give an explanation for their spying?	jeff47	Oct 2013	#9
Two wrongs don't make a right	BelgianMadCow	Oct 2013	#10
But they do make hypocrisy.	jeff47	Oct 2013	#13
Fair enough, but	BelgianMadCow	Oct 2013	#15
There's no indication it stopped.	jeff47	Oct 2013	#16
Now you're getting it	skepticscott	Oct 2013	#20
Phony bullshit?	RobertEarl	Oct 2013	#21
It's phony diplomatic bullshit	skepticscott	Oct 2013	#24
False equivilence is the media strategy	newthinking	Oct 2013	#35
I agree that much if not all of the diplomatic outrage from the EU rings hollow, but	BelgianMadCow	Oct 2013	#22
Update: 70 million calls intercepted in a month, French foreign minister requests US ambassador	BelgianMadCow	Oct 2013	#14
Is it time for Freedom Fries again? Those French ingrates!	Tierra_y_Libertad	Oct 2013	#23
Jay Carney gave a perfect explanation for it today. I hope they were tuning in. nt	BluegrassStateBlues	Oct 2013	#25
Update: "US admits: French surveillance revelations raise 'legitimate questions"	BelgianMadCow	Oct 2013	#26
We've been spying on the French for 250 years	treestar	Oct 2013	#29
Spying on the French and hoovering up 70 million calls a month are two different propositions	Ace Acme	Oct 2013	#33
Spying is spying	treestar	Oct 2013	#41
The difference is huge when improved technology allows wholesale surveillance of innocent people	Ace Acme	Oct 2013	#44
Who said proportionate amount of innocent people	treestar	Oct 2013	#45
That's ridiculous	Ace Acme	Oct 2013	#46
K&R I see the propaganda apologism machine has been here. nt	woo me with science	Oct 2013	#30
OOppss?	Rex	Oct 2013	#34
DURec	leftstreet	Oct 2013	#39

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