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hfojvt

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33. so what happened in the mid 1970s?
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:07 PM
Oct 2013

The article points to a lot of things but not very many policies.

I usually point to Reaganomics. The top tax rate got cut from 70% to just 28%.

That takes away a big dis-incentive to steal.

Stealing may be a bad word becuase the "theft" is typically "perfectly legal." It's more a matter of power than it is of law. Those at the top have the power to reward themselves with extra money.

When the top tax rate is 70%, they have LESS incentive to do so. Why use your power to get another $5 million if the government is just gonna take $3.5 milliion of it away from you? (and the state government will also take away another $300,000 (at least)).

But now that I think of it more, I think I know what happened in the mid 1970s - healthcare privatization.

Back in the pre-Nixon days most hospitals were non-profits. That changed in the mid-1970s, didn't it? Put another line on that graph and look at what health-care costs did in those years.

Because in many jobs, people are not JUST paid wages. They are paid wages PLUS benefits. As the benefits become more and more expensive (because of health insurance costs) that puts a squeeze on wages.

But another thing that happened in the mid 1970s was inflation. Remember Ford with his "WIN" button - for Whip Inflation Now. In 1970 the minimum wage was $1.6 which was $9.12 in 2011 dollars. It did not get raised again until 1974, by 1973 it had fallen to $7.97 an hour. It got raised to $2 in 1974, then $2.10 in 1975 and $2.30 in 1976, $2.65 in 1978, $2.90 in 1979, $3.10 in 1980 and $3.35 in 1981 (at which point Reagan and Senate Republicans pretty much nailed it to the ground).

But even by 1981, with a 100% increase from 1970, the 2011 value of the minimum wage in 1981 had FALLEN to just $8.15 an hour from the $9.12 an hour it was in 1970.

By the time it got to 1990, before George HW Bush could be prevailed upon to allow it to be raised again, the minimum wage had fallen to just $5.98 in 2011 dollars in 1989. A lot of other wages are tied to the minimum wage.

Even after it was raised to $7.25 in 2009, it has not kept up with inflation. It should be $7.90 today if it had almost 109% of what it is now.

our country's problem is not one of political faction or partisanship datasuspect Oct 2013 #1
+1 xchrom Oct 2013 #2
If you really think the parties are the same, why are you a DUer? nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #8
some of us agree with the theory of the democratic party datasuspect Oct 2013 #10
+1000 LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #12
It is being put in practice. If everyone VOTED, it would be implemented nationwide. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #18
Respectfully.... ReRe Oct 2013 #23
Respectfully, if Dems all voted, it would put a spine in those Dems. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #41
OK... I agree with that. ReRe Oct 2013 #44
You left out...... daleanime Oct 2013 #3
you are correct datasuspect Oct 2013 #4
Bullshit. The parties are not the same. The graph went up sharply under Clinton. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #7
Never said they were the same..... daleanime Oct 2013 #38
There's folks who like to push the "both parties are same" meme to depress the Dem vote. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #40
And there is no one pushing any.... daleanime Oct 2013 #43
It's one thing to not like some of the terms of a deal... SunSeeker Oct 2013 #45
It is good to see people waking up to the theater. woo me with science Oct 2013 #17
we have a choice of getting screwed with lube or without yurbud Oct 2013 #30
100% correct, and I for one will no longer play the game. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #42
Superimpose that graph over a graph of the top marginal tax rate... Blanks Oct 2013 #5
Excellent observation. Low tax rates cause the rich to pull money out, not reinvest. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #20
I wish more people noticed the correlation. eom Blanks Oct 2013 #25
What does this graph look like for other countries? nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #6
2008 and on should look better than it does seveneyes Oct 2013 #9
Yes - It's taking this long to recover from Bush crashing the economy (DUH). groundloop Oct 2013 #14
Obama had 24 working days of a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #19
FYI ReRe Oct 2013 #26
The 1 % is the enemy. L0oniX Oct 2013 #11
And yet...the 1% are the 1% only because we allow them to be. Orsino Oct 2013 #32
Great post BethMomDem Oct 2013 #13
Looks like class warfare to me. And working people are losing. JEB Oct 2013 #15
Excellent post. K&R woo me with science Oct 2013 #16
The 1% are the one problem from which our others spring, always have been. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #21
Yes, it's the cheap labor conservatives, and it started in the 70s. bemildred Oct 2013 #22
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #24
K&R ReRe Oct 2013 #27
If anybody knows what is going on, Robert Reich does! K&R B Calm Oct 2013 #28
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #29
Warren Buffet said it best, MindMover Oct 2013 #31
so what happened in the mid 1970s? hfojvt Oct 2013 #33
the early 70s saw 1) the oil slump turn into stagflation; on top of that 2) the ecologists and women MisterP Oct 2013 #34
When the President of the USA fires air traffic controllers ... MindMover Oct 2013 #37
The current downward spiral has its genesis in the Federal government's refusal to subject indepat Oct 2013 #35
What happened in the mid 1970s? BKH70041 Oct 2013 #36
K & R Quantess Oct 2013 #39
world trade, efficiency and productivity gains due to automation Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #46
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