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In reply to the discussion: We need single payer [View all]passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)62. This is the problem right now
nd that is the real issue, not catastrophic insurance. The reason people end up in the ER is because they don't get the preventive care they need before it becomes an emergency.
I know why some people are posting about how great it is to afford to be on an exchange. It's necessary to offset the people complaining about ACA and those who already have employer coverage who are complaining about raising the prices.
Right now too many people are getting inexpensive coverage for normal care, not catastrophic...and because their employers are kicking in to pay for it, they really don't feel the pinch of how much a plan like that would cost. This whole system that allowed people to expect almost free coverage through their jobs, while others basically had nothing...this is what perverted the whole system...and the fact that the policies to cover these "free plans" for employees, set up a system of profit for insurance companies and all health service suppliers.
The health providers and for-profit-insurance now expect to get paid like these plans used to pay. Unfortunately, this is another bust situation...just like the housing bust and the dot.com bust.
Health care booms are still the rage, but they are starting to reach a peak of being insupportable. There will be a health care bust if we continue on like this.
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Listening to people say, so what if it costs you more, or mine is cheaper...
boston bean
Oct 2013
#9
Then it's time, indeed long PAST time, to bring the "paradigm" to a crashing end!
DissidentVoice
Oct 2013
#57
It's taken me a while, but I agree with you now and nowadays, I always call it ACA
tavalon
Oct 2013
#84
We will get there. In 2017 the individual states will be able to set up their own single payer.
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#8
Just the way you and I have been talking. We TRIED it their way. Really tried. And not
DevonRex
Oct 2013
#42
I think single payer is inevitable too, for every reason under the sun, sustainability & clarity. nt
mother earth
Oct 2013
#16
I had to look that one up, isn't that what we really are saying by "single payer"?
mother earth
Oct 2013
#19
K & R, single payer is the best option, we don't need the middleman & we certainly don't need all
mother earth
Oct 2013
#15
State your reasons, we are listening...I posted the qualities above that I like.
mother earth
Oct 2013
#20
I love tri-care, but then I'm biased - VA saved my life a year ago. If its good enough for me ...
marble falls
Oct 2013
#70
I agree: single payer for all, and manditory two year national service, not necessarily military.
marble falls
Oct 2013
#78
You're being given a golden ticket to explain your position to a bunch of really smart people
tavalon
Oct 2013
#87
I wish. One MRI ordered that is not needed - but profitable to the orderer- will eat up any savings.
Hoyt
Oct 2013
#30
It treats human being's health care as a commodity, and while I will give nothing
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#25
And those of us with supposed cadillac insurance (never seemed all that great to me)
tavalon
Oct 2013
#88
This State Is Working Toward The Nation's First Universal Health Care System
IronLionZion
Oct 2013
#36
This concept causes extreme cognitive dissonance for those whom "got theirs"
Corruption Inc
Oct 2013
#46
If the truth were to be told, healthcare.gov really should be renamed healthinsurance.gov....
xocet
Oct 2013
#50
All Democrat's should be out there saying "Health Insurance is not equal to Health Care"
harun
Oct 2013
#52
Single payer would keep doctors and hospitals from picking and choosing which insurance they'll take
Blaukraut
Oct 2013
#56
We'd still have to pay into it, and I'm pretty sure it would be on a sliding scale
ecstatic
Oct 2013
#79
The insurance companies are terrified that we will figure out we don't really need the middle man
tavalon
Oct 2013
#83
I'll bump every single post. It's inevitable. All this horse hockey would have been avoided, from
grahamhgreen
Oct 2013
#95