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calimary

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100. I can understand how you feel.

Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:12 AM

Nov 2013

Waving the flag and saying "thank you for your service" is easy to do when one has not put one's rear end on the line, worn his/her country's uniform, seen combat, and in many cases shed blood for that beloved country. Veterans have put their money where their mouth is, and they get so short-changed when they come home!!! You deserve so incredibly much more than that.

Seems to me the best way to honor our veterans is not to keep making more of them.

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As A Vet I Don't Take My Countrymen Seriously When They Say Thank You. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 OP

As a non vet, SheilaT Nov 2013 #1

I Have Really Become Cynical In The Last 45 Years Since I Got Back. TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 #2

I send care packages to troops in Afghanistan Skittles Nov 2013 #3

I'm sorry about that Hobo Nov 2013 #4

I always take it graciously pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #5

+1 nt MADem Nov 2013 #52

I Take It Graciously On A One To One Basis. I Am Talking About Thankfulness That Matters Nationally TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 #30

I can understand how you feel. calimary Nov 2013 #100

I agree and think Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2013 #107

Don't stop doing it. pecwae Nov 2013 #70

This seems to be an argument against serving because you don't receive enough benefits. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #6

If that's yourtakeaway,your bias against troops and vets is showing. nt pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #8

I have a known bias against hero worshiping willing participants in the MIC. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #9

You demonstrate, once again, your inability to separate the war from the warrior pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #10

Are you really going to tell me the men who went and killed in Vietnam... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #11

Muhammad Ali showed the way Ace Acme Nov 2013 #14

I was there. I left my blood and pieces of my bone there. pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #15

Is this where I'm supposed to say "Thank you for your service"? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #46

No whathehell Nov 2013 #51

Okay, I will admit that at 18, not all is understood. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #64

you know nothing. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #22

I think that recipe has a little too much Manicheaism HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #28

You glib POS. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #56

I've been called worse. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #63

I'd be one to call you it, too Aerows Nov 2013 #75

In what other capacity would you like me to "attack" people? Behind their back? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #79

Well Aerows Nov 2013 #82

You can refuse to serve and face the legal (and social) ramifications. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #84

And I have the right to disagree with your attitude Aerows Nov 2013 #85

Instead of vague generalizations. Point out to me where in the world... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #86

Pray tell, how does murdering women and children in Afghanistan and Yemen and Pakistan Ace Acme Nov 2013 #92

Vietnam was no threat to our country. The decision that you honor Ace Acme Nov 2013 #90

Yeah so my serving in Iraq, yet another illegitimate war Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #113

You've got that backwards Ace Acme Nov 2013 #116

It is easy from your vantage point to throw upaloopa Nov 2013 #81

The average age of an enlisted soldier in Vietnam was 22. It is now 21. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #83

I have experience you have talking points. upaloopa Nov 2013 #93

Assuming a steep bell curve, you're actually wrong. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #95

The age distribution isn't a normal curve it IS skewed HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #103

You don't have facts you have talking points. upaloopa Nov 2013 #104

How come none of these criticisms are ever leveled against the Soviet "advisors" Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #117

I don't expect hero worship for my service, but it made my enlistment obvious. Sirveri Nov 2013 #102

Lots of bias in this whole thread... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #24

I will always respect men like you, pinboy3niner Aerows Nov 2013 #74

I agree. And "the US military fights for freedom" is a huge, festering lie. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #78

WWII was very different than other wars and set up unrealistic expectations Fumesucker Nov 2013 #7

thank you so much hfojvt Nov 2013 #12

So you think he hasn't earned that right? Is that your point? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #16

earned what right? hfojvt Nov 2013 #97

Earned the right to call Ace Acme Nov 2013 #99

free speech includes that hfojvt Nov 2013 #108

You think you "know", but it appears you can not distinguish knowledge from opinion Ace Acme Nov 2013 #112

By And Large Most Americans Are Anymore. If You Are A Republican Then You Are. TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 #31

Asylum Street Spankers summarized it best HarveyDarkey Nov 2013 #13

I just did my job. kentuck Nov 2013 #17

Thanks for what? DocMac Nov 2013 #101

This Veterans' Day I'll be educating people about the costs of war pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #18

I'm thinking of doing something this Veteran's day as well Victor_c3 Nov 2013 #19

+1 Couldn't agree more! B Calm Nov 2013 #20

I agree but ... GeorgeGist Nov 2013 #21

This ex-Vet is quite tired of it. trumad Nov 2013 #23

I joined at 18 scared to death sorefeet Nov 2013 #25

I wouldn't, either. It's the fake patriot Republican party who do nothing and should be ashamed. ancianita Nov 2013 #26

War is a big money make for some AKA MIC. And sadly they lure young into the RKP5637 Nov 2013 #27

I see where you are coming from but redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #29

It Is Not That It Betrays Me Personally It Is That Americans Betray Themselves As Well TheMastersNemesis Nov 2013 #32

Agreed redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #34

How much of this disconnect is due to elimination of the draft? brer cat Nov 2013 #33

I am like you redstatebluegirl Nov 2013 #38

The elimination of the draft eliminated the anti-war movement. former9thward Nov 2013 #42

We should have a real draft that serves the real needs of the military. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #47

At least for those of us born in 1952, the anti-war movement was still alive... DreamGypsy Nov 2013 #91

Yes, it was tricky back then. former9thward Nov 2013 #94

If this country cared about the troops, they would strenuously oppose sending them sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #35

I asked a neocon who seemed to have all the answers Ace Acme Nov 2013 #48

"Thanks for your service" = "Have a nice day"..for vets SoCalDem Nov 2013 #36

I feel your pain man. It is raw. lonestarnot Nov 2013 #37

Powerful and raw. Thanks for a sobering and truthful post. K&R nt riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #39

I'm sorry you feel so disillusioned. Nine Nov 2013 #40

If Sentiments were Actions Something Might be Done Ace Acme Nov 2013 #58

I see the t-y-4-ur-service as a wingnut/chickenhawk meme, mostly, & often annoying UTUSN Nov 2013 #41

Great post. jsr Nov 2013 #43

William Blum should be required reading for all Americans, CrispyQ Nov 2013 #44

K & R malokvale77 Nov 2013 #45

Well, as someone who agrees with you and fights for vet benefits, grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #49

Thank you... whathehell Nov 2013 #54

Maybe its just me Omnith Nov 2013 #50

I like your style! nt MADem Nov 2013 #53

Why should we thank America for a campaign of global domination and state terrorism? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #57

I was speaking generally about jobs. Omnith Nov 2013 #59

People should stop doing those jobs that enable the military to do evil around the world. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #60

No argument there. nt Omnith Nov 2013 #61

my father used to smirk JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #55

A) Thanks for this post, from a Viet vet. B) Some of the replies to this thread ... Scuba Nov 2013 #62

But you did recognize the con, didn't you? And I assume you took corrective action immediately. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #65

Are you clueless or just obstinate? You're blaming the victims. Please take my advice. Scuba Nov 2013 #66

They aren't just victims. You have to understand this somehow. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #67

Do you even recall that millions of Americans supported the wars too? Do you have any ... Scuba Nov 2013 #68

And the millions of Americans who were war hungry are also responsible. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #69

I think you and yours deserve more than thanks ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #71

Why don't you purposefully challenge my reasoning instead of this pass aggressive nonsense. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #80

Why don't you start another thread about it? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #87

Well said!! Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #72

I look at many of those "thanks" as a polite brush off. haele Nov 2013 #73

That brings up a good question....What is the best way to honor our vets? yourout Nov 2013 #76

As a Vietnam vet I couldn't agree with you more. upaloopa Nov 2013 #77

+1 B Calm Nov 2013 #105

Yup. MichiganVote Nov 2013 #88

What you said... well put!..... Bigmack Nov 2013 #89

Did John Kennedy really ask you to join the military? I seem to have missed that part. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #114

Were you around then...? Bigmack Nov 2013 #119

How many heroes are scattered out into the wind? DreamGypsy Nov 2013 #96

As a Vietnam vet you said it perfectly. Jake2413 Nov 2013 #98

I'm not a fan of Veteran's Day. LWolf Nov 2013 #106

I always wondered why one form of service was more valuable than another MissMillie Nov 2013 #109

I hear that and what's more, I am annoyed by people collecting charity for vets. Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #110

Lockheed Martin used to get $40 billion a year in federal contracts Ace Acme Nov 2013 #115

Every Vet in America should be taken care of ... Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #122

Not A Fan of Today's Soldier Culture otohara Nov 2013 #111

This was my world in 1964 when I graduated. upaloopa Nov 2013 #118

Your fathers were WWII heroes and didn't tell you the evils of war? nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #120

My dad was proud of his service in WWII upaloopa Nov 2013 #121