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Warpy

(114,695 posts)
17. I'd say the late 60s
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:18 PM
Jan 2014

Young people were starting to join Young Americans for Freedom and The Ripon Society while their elders were mostly liberals of one form or another.

Some of it was a reaction to the scruffy hippies and some of it was because they thought the country had been radicalized and had been offended that civil rights had been extended to blacks and women, at least partially. They were all bent out of shape because the Southern Baptists were no longer allowed to proselytize to school children during school hours.

The rise of the reactionary conservative movement started then and they're the ones who triggered the present Unraveling by allying themselves with the rich and giving up the New Deal to get all the things they wanted back.

Well, they managed to gut the New Deal but few of their social ideals have been put into operation.

What we have now is simply not sustainable, a well funded, vocal minority trying to force their will on the majority and the majority finally waking up that they got screwed without getting kissed.

Will we get out of this one non violently? I have no idea. I hope so. We don't have clear battle lines drawn between states in certain geographic areas, so we're unlikely to have a civil war like the 1861-1865 war, although some hotheads can always be counted upon to take pot shots at their neighbors.

I know how we got here and I have a hazy idea about how to get out of it but no one sensible is going to listen to me.

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The day after the Constitution was signed. Scuba Jan 2014 #1
I think for me it was JFK's assassination Politicalboi Jan 2014 #2
That's part of it gopiscrap Jan 2014 #21
Reagan: "Government IS the problem." tblue Jan 2014 #3
100% correct Freddie Jan 2014 #15
Willy, I think it really took hold with two things. Trailrider1951 Jan 2014 #4
If you put a gun to my head I'd say Nixon was the turning point Fumesucker Jan 2014 #5
Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad was a major step on that road steve2470 Jan 2014 #6
THREAD WINNER! although all the barons of industry prior did the same it never went to court Drew Richards Jan 2014 #20
When Free Trade was signed. patricia92243 Jan 2014 #7
Didn't happen all at once, could have been turned many times. I'd say post WW2 was when... NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #8
It is human nature to try to be 'better' than someone else; this holds true even in the concept of.. Shandris Jan 2014 #9
Wow. Well said! randome Jan 2014 #13
Neither platitude noe reality, a goal. They were keenly aware of their hypocrisies and Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #23
An interesting analysis, and one I can somewhat understand. Shandris Jan 2014 #24
I think it happened during the Turbineguy Jan 2014 #10
Abraham Lincoln suspending Habeas Corpus during the Civil War Doc_Technical Jan 2014 #11
Eisenhower warned us TBF Jan 2014 #12
On the Mayflower. moondust Jan 2014 #14
No, it wasn't 9/11, which is the excuse they give for enacting their prior agenda. Look back to the blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #16
I'd say the late 60s Warpy Jan 2014 #17
Yes...but, think it was after WWII when we became World's Policeman and Caregiver... KoKo Jan 2014 #18
For me it started with the JFK assassination, and went into complete unravel Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #19
I'd say it was with fucking reagan gopiscrap Jan 2014 #22
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