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In reply to the discussion: Should the United States be supporting the new government of Ukraine? [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(103,007 posts)84. EU prepared to support Ukrainian reforms with 20 billion euros
The European Union is prepared to support Ukrainian reforms with 20 billion euros after the country forms its new government, European Parliament Foreign Affairs Committee President Elmar Brok said.
He told the 1+1 channel on Sunday evening he believed that 20 billion euros would be on the table to back the reforms and the support could be granted immediately to prevent Ukraine's default.
The European Parliament deputy expressed hope for the soonest possible formation of a new Ukrainian government, which would carry out the reforms.
He promised the EU support for the new government and told Ukrainians they needed not to be afraid of default or that a lack of support would prevent the reforms.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/eu-prepared-to-support-ukrainian-reforms-with-20-billion-euros-337471.html
He told the 1+1 channel on Sunday evening he believed that 20 billion euros would be on the table to back the reforms and the support could be granted immediately to prevent Ukraine's default.
The European Parliament deputy expressed hope for the soonest possible formation of a new Ukrainian government, which would carry out the reforms.
He promised the EU support for the new government and told Ukrainians they needed not to be afraid of default or that a lack of support would prevent the reforms.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/eu-prepared-to-support-ukrainian-reforms-with-20-billion-euros-337471.html
You posted something from over a year ago, just one part of which was saying "don't ally with Svoboda". Let's look at some of the other stuff it said, remembering there had just been an election, with the coalition led by Yanukovych's Party of Regions in charge:
1. Expresses regret at the fact that, according to the OSCE, PACE, NATO Parliamentary Assembly and European Parliament observers, the electoral campaign, electoral process and post-electoral process failed to meet major international standards and constitute a step backwards compared with the national elections in 2010;
2. Notes, in particular, that certain aspects of the pre-election period (the arrest of opposition political leaders, the lack of a level playing field, caused primarily by the misuse of administrative resources, cases of harassment and intimidation of candidates and electoral staff, a lack of transparency in campaign and party financing, and a lack of balanced media coverage) and the irregularities and delays in the vote count and tabulation process constituted a step backwards compared with recent national elections;
3. Stresses that the fact that two leaders of the opposition, Yulia Tymoshenko and Yuri Lutsenko, and others were held in jail during the elections adversely affected the electoral process;
...
8. Is concerned about the rising nationalistic sentiment in Ukraine, expressed in support for the Svoboda Party, which, as a result, is one of the two new parties to enter the Verkhovna Rada; recalls that racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views go against the EU's fundamental values and principles and therefore appeals to pro-democratic parties in the Verkhovna Rada not to associate with, endorse or form coalitions with this party;
...
13. Calls on Ukraine to end the selective application of justice in Ukraine at all levels of government and to make it possible for opposition parties to participate in political life on the basis of a level playing field; calls on the authorities, in this context, to free and rehabilitate politically persecuted opponents, including Yulia Tymoshenko, Yuri Lutsenko and others;
2. Notes, in particular, that certain aspects of the pre-election period (the arrest of opposition political leaders, the lack of a level playing field, caused primarily by the misuse of administrative resources, cases of harassment and intimidation of candidates and electoral staff, a lack of transparency in campaign and party financing, and a lack of balanced media coverage) and the irregularities and delays in the vote count and tabulation process constituted a step backwards compared with recent national elections;
3. Stresses that the fact that two leaders of the opposition, Yulia Tymoshenko and Yuri Lutsenko, and others were held in jail during the elections adversely affected the electoral process;
...
8. Is concerned about the rising nationalistic sentiment in Ukraine, expressed in support for the Svoboda Party, which, as a result, is one of the two new parties to enter the Verkhovna Rada; recalls that racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views go against the EU's fundamental values and principles and therefore appeals to pro-democratic parties in the Verkhovna Rada not to associate with, endorse or form coalitions with this party;
...
13. Calls on Ukraine to end the selective application of justice in Ukraine at all levels of government and to make it possible for opposition parties to participate in political life on the basis of a level playing field; calls on the authorities, in this context, to free and rehabilitate politically persecuted opponents, including Yulia Tymoshenko, Yuri Lutsenko and others;
There's a lot more there about the old government running dodgy elections and jailing opponents than the warning about not allying with Svoboda. And we see that the EU parliament is now supporting a new government.
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Should the United States be supporting the new government of Ukraine? [View all]
another_liberal
Feb 2014
OP
It might also force Europe to buy its natural gas supplies from other sources . . .
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#2
Two lines in operation -- 27.5 billion cubic metres (970 billion cubic feet) of gas annually each
FarCenter
Feb 2014
#17
Oh please, Nord Stream is Putin's way of controlling the countries it bypasses and giving himself a
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#32
Thanks, which is why it was astounding to see support for the 'protesters' here.
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#18
Thank you and I thank you for having the ability to state your opinion AND defend it
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#81
Your so called "poll: is a joke. Should we "give them our money". You also ignore the very serious
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#14
You are seriously misrepresenting the situation. The new president is not from Svoboda
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#59
You're right that Turchynov is not of the party known as Svoboda, he is only closely allied with it.
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#69
While you spout misleading BS, it's important to point out you're wrong
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#74
Ukraine's imports and exports with Russia are almost equal. If russia stopped buying Ukraine's
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#34
Do you support forcing a country into the EU if they believe it will not benefit them?
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#21
What if the new government agrees with the duly elected leaders now overthrown in a
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#22
You keep remarking that the citizens of Ukraine didn't want an EU deal. That simply isn't true. They
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#39
people are deeply invested in the propaganda fed to them by Greenwald and company
Pretzel_Warrior
Feb 2014
#47
No kidding. It amazes me what I'm learning abut some of these people Defending Putin's tactics is a
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#57
They elected him, didn't they? And if they didn't like his policies, who does after
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#52
It wasn't a policy disagreement. It was a wholesale change in the future of the country. It's not
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#55
The President was elected as a pro-EU candidate. He continued to pursue a path to EU membership
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#60
Obama was elected as a pro-Public Option candidate, anti Insurance Mandate but then
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#65
Absolute friggin' bulls%T. Obama DID NOT RUN ON SINGLE PAYER OPTION!!!!!!! He long said
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#68
You're not addressing what Sabrina said. Obama did indeed run against the individual mandate and...
JVS
Feb 2014
#83
If they are as corrupt and murderous as that thug who just got removed, yes.
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#62
Yay for Coup D'etats. Thanks, that's what I was trying to find out about this 'new left'
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#67
why admit you're undercutting your argument by bringing up Hitler and then bring up Hitler?
Pretzel_Warrior
Feb 2014
#48
My point being that some people in America were all enamored with Mr. Hitler
Blue_In_AK
Feb 2014
#51
I would not give them money, but we (along with others) should certainly help them.
pampango
Feb 2014
#29
The interim President is not a member of Svoboda. Svoboda is far from a majority in the Rada.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2014
#38
thank you. I read earlier that Yulia said she wouldn't run. I think that's a good idea since she
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#40
really sad to see the lies being pushed about Ukrainian protests on this site
Pretzel_Warrior
Feb 2014
#49
Thanks. I began reading up on the situation and learned of some of the neo-cons and right wingers
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#80
of course we have to support the interim govt, when it arrives. provisionally.
librechik
Feb 2014
#41
I did not support the government a violent coup installed in Egypt, and I still don't.
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#93
so... it's not the bloodiness you are objecting to, but the lack of democracy?
librechik
Feb 2014
#96
Is opposition to violent overthrow of democratically elected governments . . .
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#86
I am not sure and am trying to grasp the reality of the situation as best I can.
KittyWampus
Feb 2014
#64
The top EU leadership does seem to be supporting this new Ukrainian government, for now.
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#85
I agree, humanitarian aid is fully warranted and, most likely, badly needed.
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#102