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Benton D Struckcheon

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14. Russians have been there about as long as the US has been a country.

Reply to kwassa (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:16 PM

Mar 2014

It's almost literally bringing up ancient history to say they're "recent" arrivals. Lavrov wasn't lying when he said their ties to Crimea are stronger than, say, Britain's to the Falklands. He may have been lying about lots of other things, but he wasn't lying about that.
I'm sure they find the fact it's part of Ukraine to be an injustice, but trying to take it back is just revanchism. Classically so, right down to the stupid claims about "protecting" Russians.

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Russia doesn't *need* Crimea. Russia *wants* Crimea. [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 OP

Crimea has the best deep port elfin Mar 2014 #1

Russia's Black Sea Fleet it their 2nd smallest, and they are building up another port .... kwassa Mar 2014 #9

Sort of how the U.S.A. wanted Texas and California? hunter Mar 2014 #2

It's quite a selective business as well malaise Mar 2014 #10

Erm, not really true. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #3

The original city there goes back to the ancient Greeks. kwassa Mar 2014 #6

Russians have been there about as long as the US has been a country. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #14

I would add, Putin's imperialist notions LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #4

They need Crimea to assure Eurasia succeeds. joshcryer Mar 2014 #5

I find it utterly fascinating HeiressofBickworth Mar 2014 #7

So, leave it up to the Crimeans to decide. Self determination. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #8

I agree. But, the occupation needs to end first. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #12

Oh Blame it on the West.. Keep Protecting PUtin and blame it on the "WEST.. Oil" Cha Mar 2014 #11

To be more precise, Russia does not currently need the Crimea.... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #13

The Tatars aren't native. Igel Mar 2014 #15

Looks like they want at least part of what's left of Ukraine, too. MNBrewer Mar 2014 #16

More accurately dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #17