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jeff47

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18. You build it on Obamacare in the blue states.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:02 PM
Mar 2014

The good part of "Obamacare" is it moves the battle for single-payer to the states. And that's a much more favorable ground to have the battle.

States can become single-payer or offer public options starting in 2018. Vermont is already going single-payer. We may be able to get full single-payer in some additional blue states.

In other blue states, public options should be a relatively easy sale. Sell them to the legislature as a 'check' against private insurance profiteering. With no need to profit, public option plans should end up cheaper, which will cause people to sign up. When those people don't die, the FUD against "government healthcare" is reduced, causing more people to sign up. Which makes those plans even cheaper, which causes more people to sign up.

As a result, those public options become de-facto single payer.

With blue states humming along nicely in single-payer systems, it becomes easier to sell such plans to purple states. Several of them will follow the same path.

With both blue and a few purple states humming along nicely in single-payer systems, we can return to the national battle in a much stronger position. And have a Congress where single-payer could actually pass.

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I'd love single payer. Not entirely sure how it can be built on Obamacare, though. And I'm not GreenPartyVoter Mar 2014 #1
Don't the states have the option to go to single-payer after 2017? truebluegreen Mar 2014 #2
You build it on Obamacare in the blue states. jeff47 Mar 2014 #18
Say "Medicare-for-all", rather than "Single Payer". jazzimov Mar 2014 #3
I love this post. And Democratic candidates need to be campaigning on it. Vigorously. Loudly Mar 2014 #4
+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2014 #6
Makes sense to me. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #5
Where did people get the idea that single payer is the only model that works? Recursion Mar 2014 #7
It's the most cost effective model. joshcryer Mar 2014 #8
Is it? I think the NHS model does better, doesn't it? Recursion Mar 2014 #9
What makes NHS not single payer? joshcryer Mar 2014 #11
I suppose strictly you could say it is, but that usually means Recursion Mar 2014 #13
It does look like Blair made it so you can opt out. joshcryer Mar 2014 #14
The more interesting part to me of ACA is the FQHC model Recursion Mar 2014 #16
Oh yeah... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #19
"The UK health care system, National Health Servise, (NHS).. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #10
You seem to be confusing "universal health care" with "single payer". They're two different things Recursion Mar 2014 #12
Thanks, I didn't know that. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #15
I hope the FQHC part of ACA really gets going Recursion Mar 2014 #17
The entire POINT of Obamacare is to funnel trillions into the hands of insurance companies... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #20
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