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TheBlackAdder

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26. As an English novice, a continuing ed student, I'll give it a shot...
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 02:01 PM
Apr 2014

Apparently, the current set of undergraduate English degrees don’t do more than that. In fact, while they teach creativity, they do not allow one to apply creativity. They are producing graduates who have no applied skills beyond the critical writings of authored works. Sure, the student is exposed to varied thoughts and concepts, but they cannot participate in those and engage further with them. They are prevented from placing themselves in the author’s works or by creating unique works of their own. Imagine being an English student and having to write 6-7 critical analysis papers each month—nothing else, just CMA papers. That is not the English program my twin sisters took back in the 1970’s, and I am in the same school and in the same program.

As with any major, there are generalities and specializations. Instead of opting for a specialty in English Literature or the like, I chose a Standard English track to hopefully broaden my exposure to writing, composition, and thought. As I move forward, I see that you cannot be a good writer without a solid background in literary history. So much is learned about the human condition and human nature that one would be challenged to write a good composition without it. A writer needs to know how to attract their readers, how to write a believable storyline, how to hold their reader’s attention, how to end their work without leaving loose ends while satisfying the reader’s demands to want more.

One of the core requirements for a BA in English is a Critical Methods of Analysis course. Little did I know (reminds me of the movie ‘Stranger than Fiction’) that Critical Methods would be the basis for an entire English program. Nothing reinforces any further composition skills once you complete the CMA course. It is just one critical analysis paper after another, regardless of what you cover. Critical analysis is important, but once you learn it and have it reinforced after writing a dozen papers in English and elective courses, you kind of have that skill set down. It is time to grow and develop beyond CMA. Perhaps the professors like it because they do not have to work to grade the results, but you would think that would become boring for them as well.

As far as self-publishing, I am all for that. In the past, you would write a novel and it might get reviewed or it might not. Some intern decides whether you get your novel published. Get the book, “The First Five Pages,” and you will see how many great contemporary authors almost never were. Nowadays, a writer can self-publish for around $1,000 and that includes the ISBN numbers, the electronic books, and a submission for the pressing of on-demand hardcover/softcover books. Of course, if you require art work or specialty paper, those costs will start to go up a bit. Sure there’s a bit of ‘me’ in everyone and it is expressed in different ways. Luckily, I am not part of the instant gratification era that my kids are in, even refusing to have a Facebook and Twitter account, but I do have a voice, a set of concepts, and the will to try and get them out. It’s personal for me. I have stories, and if no one reads them, that is fine. I just want to vent after working behind a desk all day.

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Proud holder of an English degree here... GreenEyedLefty Apr 2014 #1
+1000 Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #16
Yes, "corporatizing" does seem to be a factor. nt TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #28
+1... Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #37
"What are you going to do with that?" deutsey Apr 2014 #43
Bravo!!!! Well said!!! BIG K&R!! riderinthestorm Apr 2014 #2
That's a function of the AP curriculum, though. knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #32
That same mindset permeates the N.J. Collegiate English Departments. TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #35
I disagree. knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #42
R#1 & K for, I are an English (lit) major, & when *was* it not a poor choice for the marketplace?!1 UTUSN Apr 2014 #3
If you want a useful resource for grammar and usage, you could visit tblue37 Apr 2014 #7
Thanks. I "get" lie/lay and those basics. I wanted (back then) to be grammatically worthy of UTUSN Apr 2014 #10
I have a Masters in English. MineralMan Apr 2014 #4
Actual writing of poetry and plays would be in the Fine Arts FarCenter Apr 2014 #5
True. MineralMan Apr 2014 #6
Real and useful writing can be taught directly, without an English Departments many detours FarCenter Apr 2014 #8
During my graduate studies, MineralMan Apr 2014 #15
IIRC, the only time freshmen saw an English professor was a once a week lecture in the auditorium FarCenter Apr 2014 #29
With the exception of playwriting and music, most BFA & MFA limit Creative Writing skills. TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #11
I'm of the opinion that writers and other artists don't have LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #9
College provides an environment where artists/writers can interact with one another KittyWampus Apr 2014 #20
Got my degree in literature. Igel Apr 2014 #12
One of my goals, as a continuing education student, is to obtain your skill level or higher. TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #18
You make some good points rjsquirrel Apr 2014 #13
Thanks. TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #17
What misspellings do you find? uppityperson Apr 2014 #19
Great post TransitJohn Apr 2014 #14
Thanks John. TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #22
Great post! I'm not an English major and I think it shows. :) However... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #21
Most University English Departments MineralMan Apr 2014 #23
Yes, I read the OP and that's what it said, but that's why I asked the why of it. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #24
The publication they require is academic publication. MineralMan Apr 2014 #25
Bingo! I couldn't have written it better. nt TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #27
As an English novice, a continuing ed student, I'll give it a shot... TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #26
Thank you. Very interesting explanation of how English departments tend to go nowadays Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #30
What an excellent post. idendoit Apr 2014 #31
A few thoughts from this high school English teacher: knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #33
A few retorts: TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #34
My replies to your retorts. ;) knitter4democracy Apr 2014 #41
I was a literature major, but this is an example of why I chose a creative writing emphasis. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #36
Um, an English Literature degree is not the same thing as a creative writing degree. 6000eliot Apr 2014 #38
Many people who obtain English degrees are not doing so to get some crappy job. bemildred Apr 2014 #39
Media & Communication also rank in the bottom tier of paying professions. nt TheBlackAdder Apr 2014 #40
Right, but you can get a job. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #44
They're at least partly right... Orsino Apr 2014 #45
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