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Wonder why feminists focus and fight against MRA bullshit? Look inside to understand. Pic heavy. [View all] boston bean Apr 2014 OP

wow. that is something to be proud of. every discussion of woman, she is a tool for his use seabeyond Apr 2014 #1

The hate, resentment, chervilant Apr 2014 #2

By perusing the comments on some of the articles, you would be suprised boston bean Apr 2014 #27

for the left.... evo psych is the new religion in the name of science with the sole purpose to seabeyond Apr 2014 #41

In the same way that meteorology is the new religion of people who fire cannons to make it rain Scootaloo Apr 2014 #107

all of science is cursing it, because that is how it is being used. they had better damn well seabeyond Apr 2014 #108

I struggle to imagine myceology gives a damn, really Scootaloo Apr 2014 #110

i get that. i know that. and i call them out. until there is a handle on that, the science is seabeyond Apr 2014 #111

Wow CFLDem Apr 2014 #3

so, when we hear the same shit on du, we get pissed and call it out. to be clear. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #4

As you should Sea CFLDem Apr 2014 #5

NO Freakin' KIDDING!!!! calimary Apr 2014 #6

So you will call it out when you see feminists being accused of boston bean Apr 2014 #7

I call out all misogyny everywhere CFLDem Apr 2014 #8

was it you that told us street harassment was not that bad and your wife agreed? seabeyond Apr 2014 #9

Yes, I want to know the answer too. Because maybe, I am also misremembering. Maybe ... Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #11

i do want to add. even saying that, doing the very speaking out i am talking seabeyond Apr 2014 #10

Yes, and times like those makes times like this seem sarcastic to me. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #12

No sarcasm at all CFLDem Apr 2014 #13

They speak for MRA's. boston bean Apr 2014 #14

you have some imagination on you, you do. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #15

"Nanny superior" is quite telling, LOL. Steinem once said bettyellen Apr 2014 #16

That's the thing. Many of these same sentiments boston bean Apr 2014 #17

Way too many times. riqster Apr 2014 #46

All that they missed was the FemiNazi reference that Limpballs loves so much fasttense Apr 2014 #18

What's wrong with polygamy? CFLDem Apr 2014 #19

And this would be us thinking something nefarious is up. Maybe it is purely lack of knowledge, seabeyond Apr 2014 #21

How does polygamy CFLDem Apr 2014 #23

Google women/feminist objection to polygamy. Educate yourself. Nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #26

So enthusiastic consent CFLDem Apr 2014 #29

so... you refuse to educate yourself yet want a conversation? seabeyond Apr 2014 #42

Actually I constantly educate myself CFLDem Apr 2014 #52

no. it is not cutting edge. it is old, tired. and it is fail. cutting edge? fourth wave. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #57

Fourth wave? CFLDem Apr 2014 #60

i found you in the fifth. men defining. interesting. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #63

You are living In a fantasy world. fasttense Apr 2014 #88

Exactly. There's how we'd *like* things to be, and how things actually are. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #127

There are too many people that watch the reality shows about these "happy" polygamous families.... blueamy66 Apr 2014 #213

a-ha - Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #30

right on.... i am off seabeyond Apr 2014 #47

A 15 year old girl can not provide enthusiastic consent fasttense Apr 2014 #86

It means that women have a right to choose... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #87

so, OhioJoe had your number. got it. seabeyond Apr 2014 #90

Or rape? BainsBane Apr 2014 #118

It always leads to child and spouse abuse when in practice. fasttense Apr 2014 #85

a man should be able to have as many wives as he can amass. seabeyond Apr 2014 #92

I was being facetious fasttense Apr 2014 #94

thank you thank you THANK YOU..... seabeyond Apr 2014 #96

Way to change the subject. CFLDem Apr 2014 #100

hence, me telling you to educate yourself on polygamy so you can see what the issue is. seabeyond Apr 2014 #102

Poly relationships in themselves are fine. It's allowing a wealthy man to amass as many wives nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #128

This 'amassing' wives concept is interesting. CFLDem Apr 2014 #135

I don't think of it that way either. But it's hard to separate a wealthy man having many wives nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #138

Well everything is property to a wealthy person CFLDem Apr 2014 #141

Short answer: there are differences between polyamory and polygamy LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #139

Thank you for that. CFLDem Apr 2014 #143

Rush calls women he doesn't agree with feminazis, others call men that don't agree with MRA (nt) The Straight Story Apr 2014 #50

Calling someone a "feminazi" is nothing like calling someone an "MRA" redqueen Apr 2014 #101

The idea is simply The Straight Story Apr 2014 #103

would that be like saying .... da doors, to many many womens issues brought up? nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #104

When men on DU post that sometimes when women say no, they really mean yes - that's MRA bullshit. redqueen Apr 2014 #106

But you are assigning something The Straight Story Apr 2014 #109

If they are not aware of mra talking points, then making them aware seabeyond Apr 2014 #117

What does that even mean? The Straight Story Apr 2014 #120

when someone comes on this site and says democrats give all the money to the poor. we educate and seabeyond Apr 2014 #152

And who defines this? The Straight Story Apr 2014 #156

Nope. "Feminazi" demonizes feminists by comparing them to Nazis. redqueen Apr 2014 #193

and mra is a proper label at that. would be like limbaugh yelling at us... you feminists. ya. ok. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #195

Yep. One is a pejorative and the other is simply the correct term. redqueen Apr 2014 #198

They may be "a voice for men" but if I ever heard that on the radio, I'd turn it off. gtar100 Apr 2014 #20

AVFM is just one organization. Other, more insidious MRA groups redqueen Apr 2014 #54

Heartiste and Return of Kings are two of the worst examples I've seen. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #122

The out right lies the MRA's work so hard to get into the mainstream seem endless... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #22

That's it Joe. The denial of being one, but spouting the same talking points and sickness of an MRA. boston bean Apr 2014 #24

Exactly ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #45

It's jarring to see those who do things like redqueen Apr 2014 #62

street harassment, polgamy good, MRA, bad. but, i am told that is the fifth. seabeyond Apr 2014 #65

Yes, very true. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #123

i have never heard a feminist say all men are rapists. even the most radical. i have heard many men seabeyond Apr 2014 #155

I still think there is something psychologically wrong with them (*graphic pic warning*) ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #25

Too many men are fed this too much in too much if their lives. Of course it is effective. seabeyond Apr 2014 #28

I know ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #32

better put a *graphic Pic warning* in your subject line, ism .... Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #31

Ok ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #35

This is a classic Rovian move... Out of Time Man Apr 2014 #33

welcome to DU, Out of Time Man Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #39

Thank You! Out of Time Man Apr 2014 #48

and i seabeyond Apr 2014 #55

Thank you for the warm welcome, seabeyond! Out of Time Man Apr 2014 #80

Welcome to DU! etherealtruth Apr 2014 #58

Thank You! Out of Time Man Apr 2014 #75

Now it's half past two alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #206

Thank you! Out of Time Man Apr 2014 #207

This is likely to piss people off, but I will say it anyway: riqster Apr 2014 #34

+1000 ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #36

"There is no room in a civilized world for "a little bit of MRA". Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #38

one accepts a little bit of dehumanizing propaganda, it empowers the propagandist seabeyond Apr 2014 #59

Thanks, Sea. riqster Apr 2014 #61

Precisely, because it's bigotry BainsBane Apr 2014 #116

S'truth. riqster Apr 2014 #119

Don't have any tolerance for MRAs, either. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #121

Absolutely. With you all the way. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #129

The MRA rhetoric equals the poor maligned white male schtick etherealtruth Apr 2014 #37

It's an unintended consequence of privilege: riqster Apr 2014 #40

.... that is exactly the way I see it etherealtruth Apr 2014 #43

I have never cared for the whole notion of competing hfojvt Apr 2014 #72

You have a point about cooperation ... etherealtruth Apr 2014 #79

As usual... a decent concept taken to the extreme by a relatively small percentage of nutters... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #44

It started with custody battles ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #51

And what is this 'decent concept'? Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #53

I usually default to the custody issues... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #73

Sensative? No... I am just curious how much misogyny you think is ok... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #76

I gave very a specific example... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #84

ooh, deflecting with very personal insults. aren't you a champ at debate? stop imaging a tone and bettyellen Apr 2014 #95

Specific? All you said was "custody issues" and "others"... That could be many things Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #98

here is another really good example. polygamy. YEA!!! you are good joe seabeyond Apr 2014 #91

Yeah... They are not very good at hiding... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #99

Even if they might have an occasional valid point, we don't need them to make it. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #130

Sorry but that's intellectual laziness... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #134

We can make those valid points with no need for MRA's to do it. That's what I meant. n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #136

How satisfied would you be. Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #140

I'm a man myself. And I really don't get your point. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #144

My point is that no feminist worth her salt... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #146

The problem is they blame feminism for things that aren't feminists' fault at all. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #150

Not at all... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #151

that is not factually true. factually, the majority of fathers do not want primary custody. that seabeyond Apr 2014 #163

Why isn't someone talking about it? Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #189

the problem, yoru point is hollow. empty. worthless. MRA use is to harass, hate, bully, women, seabeyond Apr 2014 #191

MRAs formed mainly as a way to oppose feminism davidn3600 Apr 2014 #205

Feminism is just as misguided as MRAs? redqueen Apr 2014 #209

Just my opinion davidn3600 Apr 2014 #210

"Stuff like "rape culture" I find to be mostly nonsense" redqueen Apr 2014 #214

your post sounds like it is reasoned, but, there is too much wrong to really address seabeyond Apr 2014 #215

What you perceive as their primary gripe is a bunch of bullshit. redqueen Apr 2014 #194

yes you do. as does others. i knew the info was there. thanks for providing. it truly is a strawman. seabeyond Apr 2014 #196

Well not completely. There are those few dads who really do get a raw deal. redqueen Apr 2014 #197

The problem is that "MRA" is used as a catch-all title to silence discussion. nt Bonobo Apr 2014 #147

I've never used it that way. If others do, then that's their problem, not yours or mine. n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #149

Well you sort of just did. Bonobo Apr 2014 #153

I don't consider the Men's Group an MRA group. If I did, I wouldn't bother to read/post nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #157

Fair enough. Bonobo Apr 2014 #159

Any male who thinks feminism is the cause of their woes is an MRA boston bean Apr 2014 #161

I think that depends on what is really happening. Bonobo Apr 2014 #165

Why have you decided who is a feminist? boston bean Apr 2014 #169

We are not discussing rape culture here. This sub-thread has to do with using the term MRA Bonobo Apr 2014 #172

Hey when someone thinks feminists are oppressing them boston bean Apr 2014 #174

Might it be worth pondering why certain people are so "angry"? nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #164

I can understand it. It doesn't change things. Bonobo Apr 2014 #166

You may be right. And I would never say you shouldn't defend yourself when attacked. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #168

No, it is the use of MRA tactics and ideas that lead to much of the angst. boston bean Apr 2014 #170

I agree those sorts of talking points don't belong on DU. Absolutely. n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #171

And on the flip side of that The Straight Story Apr 2014 #173

It's a discussion about the effect the culture has on women. boston bean Apr 2014 #175

The thing is, you only NOTICE derailments. Bonobo Apr 2014 #176

hmmm... maybe some self reflection would be a good idea. boston bean Apr 2014 #178

Indeed, it is a discussion The Straight Story Apr 2014 #180

When you find yourself on a different side on almost all issues boston bean Apr 2014 #181

And it looks like your bad behavior has earned you a two-month vacation. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2014 #199

Alerted!!!! bravenak Apr 2014 #200

Heh. Not a bit surprised at the alert. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2014 #201

MRA = some kind of secret code word? A shiboleth? Do share, please. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2014 #49

Men's Rights Activist riqster Apr 2014 #56

And if we are oppressed, it's by other men, not women. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #131

Very true! riqster Apr 2014 #154

MRA seems like a sad fringe. Never heard the term except here on DU. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #64

they are in our police force. they are in our govt telling us to put an aspirin between our knees. seabeyond Apr 2014 #67

Lesbian separstists aren't a threat to men. MRA's, on the other hand... redqueen Apr 2014 #68

I feel sick. xmas74 Apr 2014 #66

No. Arrogant, authoritarian conservative males have been fucking up the world since the dawn of Zorra Apr 2014 #69

+ a bazillion nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #132

I sort-of agree with the third one Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #70

There are groups for men that promote a healthy masculinity ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #74

Thank you Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #82

as a feminist mother of two boys, i absolutely embraced and embrace still seabeyond Apr 2014 #78

Sadly, I agree with that Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #81

My Senator TNNurse Apr 2014 #71

While I fight for equality for all... DrewFlorida Apr 2014 #77

That may sometimes be true. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #124

Yes I understand the sad truth, as I stated, I simply ask that people understand both sides. DrewFlorida Apr 2014 #142

Except the idea that men are naturally more violent doesn't come from feminism. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #133

Men are not NATURALLY more violent, they may have more ability to act on their violent feelings... DrewFlorida Apr 2014 #145

I was talking about assumptions, not actualities. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #148

I see, I guess I just didn't understand what you were trying to say. DrewFlorida Apr 2014 #160

Sure it does. Try posting the data on reciprocal IPV and see who objects. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #202

Women are still much more likely to be seriously injured or killed by an intimate partner. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #203

That part is uncontroversial. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #208

Fair enough. I'm just not sure you're putting blame in the right place. n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #212

"Don't be that girl"? Really? Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #83

It's not about a profession BainsBane Apr 2014 #115

Nope. Never wondered. Maedhros Apr 2014 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Apr 2014 #93

You don't need to announce it in every thread you trash, FYI. It's not a requirement and laundry_queen Apr 2014 #97

LOL Skittles Apr 2014 #113

I think it's an ismism. pintobean Apr 2014 #114

kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2014 #105

MRAs really got going with issues involving family law...that is how it started davidn3600 Apr 2014 #112

There may be some truth but honestly, I think you've overstated it to a good degree. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #125

I know that any time a man speaks on this DonCoquixote Apr 2014 #126

Amen CFLDem Apr 2014 #137

Well said! Raksha Apr 2014 #158

By posting this you are reinforcing what the MRA's are talking about Harmony Blue Apr 2014 #162

really? women should never talk about anything cause that makes them attention seekers? brilliant. seabeyond Apr 2014 #167

No, but scouring the internet for a photo that makes you personally mad and then raising that Bonobo Apr 2014 #177

i did nothing. you will have to ask BB the effort she went to create the OP. scouring? lol. seabeyond Apr 2014 #179

I'm sorry you can't appreciate the seriousness of rape culture CFLDem Apr 2014 #183

MRA morons who promote rape culture? Bonobo Apr 2014 #186

It certainly doesn't stop you from posting MRA talking points. nt CFLDem Apr 2014 #187

If the photos do not mean so much DonCoquixote Apr 2014 #211

I know, Sea! CFLDem Apr 2014 #184

ok cfl.... seabeyond Apr 2014 #185

Yeah, that shit's posted in DU:GD 24/7. TransitJohn Apr 2014 #182

I can agree with the second-to-last one NickB79 Apr 2014 #188

I don't doubt that genuine "man-haters" exist, but they don't have enough power to really threaten nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #204

yeah, that's disgusting shit. but keep in mind, there's plenty of dudes who'd gladly get their asses dionysus Apr 2014 #190

Rise brothers! We will defeat teh evil Feminists that want rights and stuff!1!!!1 chrisa Apr 2014 #192