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In reply to the discussion: Do you believe that Obama installed a Nazi government in Ukraine to steal their resources? [View all]cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)15. Sadly, that story is kind of a joke
The former intelligence official said the Russian who delivered the sample to the UK was a good source someone with access, knowledge and a record of being trustworthy.
See... that is the entirety of the story. Is a sample provided by Russian intelligence that supports what Russian intelligence claims (a claim that is contradicted by all common sense and much evidence) reliable?
This is how conspiracy journalism (sic) is done. Set aside the very concept of preponderance of evidence. Zero in one one bogus datum, and then finesse the reliability of the datum with some vague anonymous bullshit.
The entire story is only as strong as one source saying that some other source had been reliable in the past and thus might be reliable in this instance... even though his employers are deserate to push precisely the story his evidence supports, and that little other evidence does support.
On the other side of the ledger, we have a mountain of evidence to the contrary, and tons of evidence that the attack involved resources nobody is claiming any rebels ever had, and that Assad's forces were known to have.
(What are the chances that if the only source for a fantastic theory was US intelligence? Would the same people just lap that up?)
And the icing on this cake of silliness is the notion that the rebels could have wiped out Assad's stronghold in Damascus any time they wanted but instead infiltrated Assad positions to rain mass death down on themselves as some false flag thing...
And it fooled everybody in the world except some guy Seymour Hersh claims to know.
Thing about the real world: Evidence has a basis in favor of shit that happens. When your army doesn't launch huge attacks there is tremendous evidence of that fact.
Like the huge freak-out when you realize somebody has infiltrated your positions to launch giant gas attacks. So the whole Assad side just sits around doing nothing... just watches. Not attempt to stop it. No pursuit of the infiltrating forces. No nothing.
It is just sad. There is saucer stuff stronger than this. Why are people so desperate to believe these stories?
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Do you believe that Obama installed a Nazi government in Ukraine to steal their resources? [View all]
cthulu2016
Apr 2014
OP
I think that the West had generally much less to do with what happened in Ukraine...
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2014
#4
It requires a double-theory of the CIA feigning incompetence all these years.
cthulu2016
Apr 2014
#6
Yeah, Rachel Maddow did a humorous piece on the CIA. She talked about all the world events
okaawhatever
Apr 2014
#18
One problem I see is the "Government Assessment" being not a "Intelligence summary"
jakeXT
Apr 2014
#12
And this is why the British Parliament voted against military intervention which
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#17
No. I think the our government helped overthrow the government and didn't care much
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#16
Re the Sarin Gas incident, that has been disputed over and over by investigators and many
sabrina 1
Apr 2014
#20
Anyone who believes the Ukraine govt are Nazis is falling for Russian propaganda.
baldguy
Apr 2014
#23
Obama? Hell no. The U.S. govt (which has been doing this since before I was born)? Maybe. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Apr 2014
#30