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cthulu2016

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15. Sadly, that story is kind of a joke
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 03:53 PM
Apr 2014
The former intelligence official said the Russian who delivered the sample to the UK was ‘a good source – someone with access, knowledge and a record of being trustworthy’.



See... that is the entirety of the story. Is a sample provided by Russian intelligence that supports what Russian intelligence claims (a claim that is contradicted by all common sense and much evidence) reliable?

This is how conspiracy journalism (sic) is done. Set aside the very concept of preponderance of evidence. Zero in one one bogus datum, and then finesse the reliability of the datum with some vague anonymous bullshit.

The entire story is only as strong as one source saying that some other source had been reliable in the past and thus might be reliable in this instance... even though his employers are deserate to push precisely the story his evidence supports, and that little other evidence does support.

On the other side of the ledger, we have a mountain of evidence to the contrary, and tons of evidence that the attack involved resources nobody is claiming any rebels ever had, and that Assad's forces were known to have.

(What are the chances that if the only source for a fantastic theory was US intelligence? Would the same people just lap that up?)

And the icing on this cake of silliness is the notion that the rebels could have wiped out Assad's stronghold in Damascus any time they wanted but instead infiltrated Assad positions to rain mass death down on themselves as some false flag thing...

And it fooled everybody in the world except some guy Seymour Hersh claims to know.



Thing about the real world: Evidence has a basis in favor of shit that happens. When your army doesn't launch huge attacks there is tremendous evidence of that fact.

Like the huge freak-out when you realize somebody has infiltrated your positions to launch giant gas attacks. So the whole Assad side just sits around doing nothing... just watches. Not attempt to stop it. No pursuit of the infiltrating forces. No nothing.

It is just sad. There is saucer stuff stronger than this. Why are people so desperate to believe these stories?

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DU Rec. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #1
I believe the State Department Did Demeter Apr 2014 #2
The buck no longer stops there. truedelphi Apr 2014 #11
Unfortunately, true Demeter Apr 2014 #29
True. 840high Apr 2014 #33
No. wercal Apr 2014 #3
I think that the West had generally much less to do with what happened in Ukraine... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #4
It requires a double-theory of the CIA feigning incompetence all these years. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #6
Yeah, Rachel Maddow did a humorous piece on the CIA. She talked about all the world events okaawhatever Apr 2014 #18
No, actually we in the public were told at the time that they truedelphi Apr 2014 #44
You Will Pick Up Quite A Bit Of Navel Lint With This One, Sir... The Magistrate Apr 2014 #5
reuters and the un are russian agents? questionseverything Apr 2014 #7
I cannot read the OP to you. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #8
UN: Chemical weapons used in Syria appear to come from army stockpile pampango Apr 2014 #9
Of course, as Janet Reno often said, "We will never ever know." truedelphi Apr 2014 #10
One important thing we do know about what has gone on over there: truedelphi Apr 2014 #14
_grin_ BelgianMadCow Apr 2014 #36
_likewise_ truedelphi Apr 2014 #42
One problem I see is the "Government Assessment" being not a "Intelligence summary" jakeXT Apr 2014 #12
Sadly, that story is kind of a joke cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #15
And this is why the British Parliament voted against military intervention which sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #17
Cold war is back on and MI5 is hiring jakeXT Apr 2014 #19
If we had had a dozen other Hersh's out there doing real journalism, we truedelphi Apr 2014 #43
Whatever is the plan, I don't want war n/t 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #13
No. I think the our government helped overthrow the government and didn't care much Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #16
Re the Sarin Gas incident, that has been disputed over and over by investigators and many sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #20
Yes, we are indeed fucking with other nations all the time. cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #22
Sadly our history shows us that the CIA have led covert TBF Apr 2014 #21
Anyone who believes the Ukraine govt are Nazis is falling for Russian propaganda. baldguy Apr 2014 #23
What if a person considers some of the Ukraine govt to be fascists? Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2014 #34
Russia's problem with Ukraine is that it isn't fascist enough. baldguy Apr 2014 #37
agreed on the nazi term, which is why i use fascist instead Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2014 #41
K&R Progressive dog Apr 2014 #24
Foreign policy can be sumarized in two things nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #25
This: NuclearDem Apr 2014 #39
No, they are not Nazis. They are facists. FarCenter Apr 2014 #26
Nope Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #27
it's a matter of fact that the U.S. was involved Enrique Apr 2014 #28
Obama? Hell no. The U.S. govt (which has been doing this since before I was born)? Maybe. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #30
Fascist, not Nazi. Obama? No... ballyhoo Apr 2014 #31
Ukraine: Joe Biden Promotes U.S. as Fracking Missionary Force nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #32
No. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #35
I don't think Obama did anything in Ukraine, really. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #38
Only if you desire to have charred pants. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #40
Again. Read Peter Dale Scott. The Deep State doesn't work that way. Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #45
Yes. I also believe that Obama is Kang Arkana Apr 2014 #46
No. LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #47
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