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In reply to the discussion: This, my friends, is an *actual* coup. [View all]ozone_man
(4,825 posts)40. Is regime change also a coup?
For example, what the U.S. is doing in Syria now. It seems there are many variations on what may be considered coups. Here is a list of regime changes and coups.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions
Covert United States foreign regime
change actions
1949 Syrian coup d'état
1953 Iranian coup d'état
1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
1959 Tibetan uprising
1961 Cuba, Bay of Pigs Invasion
1963 South Vietnamese coup
1964 Brazilian coup d'état
1973 Chilean coup d'état
1976 Argentine coup d'état
197989 Afghanistan, Operation Cyclone
1980 Turkish coup d'état
198187 Nicaragua, Contras
2011present Syrian uprising
The United States has been involved in and assisted in the overthrow of foreign governments (more recently termed "regime change" without the overt use of U.S. military force. Often, such operations are tasked to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
Regime change has been attempted through direct involvement of U.S. operatives, the funding and training of insurgency groups within these countries, anti-regime propaganda campaigns, coups d'état, and other activities usually conducted as operations by the CIA. The United States has also accomplished regime change by direct military action, such as following the U.S. invasion of Panama in 1989 and the U.S.-led military invasion of Iraq in 2003.
Some argue that non-transparent United States government agencies working in secret sometimes mislead or do not fully implement the decisions of elected civilian leaders and that this has been an important component of many such operations,[1] see plausible deniability. Some contend that the U.S. has supported more coups against democracies that it perceived as communist, becoming communist, or pro-communist.[1]
The U.S. has also covertly supported opposition groups in various countries without necessarily attempting to overthrow the government. For example, the CIA funded anti-communist political parties in countries such as Italy and Chile; it also armed Kurdish rebels fighting the Ba'athist government of Iraq in the Second Kurdish-Iraqi War prior to the Algiers Agreement.
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Yep, that's precisely what birthers have been calling for over the past 6 years.
MohRokTah
May 2014
#1
No 'authoritarian swooner, mindless cheerleader' or '1984' cliches? Lucky you!
freshwest
May 2014
#6
We need to get some Orwell smilies. Crypto? I have no idea....it's not like I expect them to use
msanthrope
May 2014
#45
oh no I've watched too many horror movies to know that that's a bad idea. nt
msanthrope
May 2014
#33
In worldwide politics, every situation is unique and plays out in a unique fashion.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#10
I think we look for a universal cause to advance a more humane solution. Idealism is not for empty
freshwest
May 2014
#27
The Thaksins are crooks. They have used their positions to make themselves fabulously wealthy. They
OregonBlue
May 2014
#34
Why would we not care about Thailand? Too far away, too small, too brown or just not the USA?
pampango
May 2014
#15
65 million Thai do, not to mention billions of dollars invested, they care also.
Fred Sanders
May 2014
#19
if words matter, i'd call this a "military coup" to distinguish it from other forms of coups.
unblock
May 2014
#16
See how words acquire different meanings here. I assumed this was a John Roberts thread (nt)
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#17
No RW thugs incinerating police forces with petrol bombs.....I see the differences and similarities,
Fred Sanders
May 2014
#18
I thought you said you put me on ignore. Oh well, guess not. While I have you....
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#20
That's pretty awful to have to live like that. I hope she gets here safely. n/t
freshwest
May 2014
#44
Thanks for the update and I still hope she finds a way out, or things get better. Best wishes to her
freshwest
May 2014
#49
Typically, even "bloodless" coups involve at least the threat of violence by its perpetrators.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#39
Most of those have been bloodless and pretty non-violent. Thais have very strong opinions and no one
OregonBlue
May 2014
#37
Thai coups are nothing like South American coups. They are generally pretty non-violent and
OregonBlue
May 2014
#52
They've had many coups. Mostly by the military and most of them have been pretty
OregonBlue
May 2014
#54