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lostincalifornia

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101. No glen, Ginsburg is not correct. This ruling is specifically against women. In fact it says
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 10:27 AM
Jul 2014

everything else such as vaccines and blood transfusions cannot be used on religious grounds, but only applies to contraception. Besides the discrimination, it also allows companies to make medical decisions for their employees.

Yes, GG is an asshole

He's always been an a**h***. CherokeeDem Jun 2014 #1
The thing is....I agree the NSA should be exposed, but as Cryptome has pointed out, GG's msanthrope Jun 2014 #2
I know..... CherokeeDem Jun 2014 #10
You can read GG's book for free on the Cryptome site...it's pretty apparent msanthrope Jun 2014 #11
His appearance on Bill Maher's show.... CherokeeDem Jun 2014 #13
Ask yourself why it doesn't. Personally, I think we are watching internecine msanthrope Jun 2014 #14
That could be true... CherokeeDem Jun 2014 #20
Yep. joshcryer Jun 2014 #51
Well said. I have thought that myself and agree with you. Justice Jun 2014 #22
He's using it to sell books and shit too uponit7771 Jun 2014 #36
that's what all of this is mostly for him JI7 Jun 2014 #61
We are not surprised. frazzled Jun 2014 #3
That sweet, sweet Omidayar money, coupled with being of the 'owner' class, undoubtedly msanthrope Jun 2014 #6
This ought to be good. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #4
I expect to be accused of smearing GG by quoting GG. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #7
The BEST way to smear GG is t let GG speak. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #8
"Let an asshole be an asshole." nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #9
See post #143. joshcryer Jul 2014 #170
I adore him, but don't agree with him on this issue. Fawke Em Jul 2014 #132
Good. any day is a good day for a FUCK GREENWALD thread. BootinUp Jun 2014 #5
Well - we could have just ignored his statements - would that have been preferable? nt el_bryanto Jun 2014 #17
No, not any day. pnwmom Jul 2014 #173
He probably jizzed himself just like his worship for the Citizens United decision. Fuck him. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #12
Glenn Greenwald has offered nothing of value to this world. Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #15
He's a weasel.....a Libertarian one. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #16
This^^^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2014 #195
the visceral hatred on this thread is shameful... grasswire Jun 2014 #18
Yeah...I fucking hate overprivileged white Libertarians who could give two msanthrope Jun 2014 #19
Incredibly fucking paternalistic-thank you! bettyellen Jun 2014 #23
Yeah...if you read the white male opinion on your reproductive rights, bettyellen, you'll msanthrope Jun 2014 #25
Damn.....what she said. Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #63
You seem to judge a lot of people by their gender, race and religion. hugo_from_TN Jun 2014 #78
Ya know what's even less "productive"? GG. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #84
I'm no Greenwald fan hugo_from_TN Jul 2014 #87
this has a lot to do with gender, race and religion JI7 Jul 2014 #90
Well, between the liberal woman who sued the military, and the Libertarian who defended a Nazi, msanthrope Jul 2014 #97
Right on! Well said! MADem Jul 2014 #131
+1000. pnwmom Jul 2014 #194
What's shameful is GGs overt hackery and the reflexive support for it uponit7771 Jun 2014 #37
It's no more important than... Wait Wut Jun 2014 #46
I haven't seen anyone discuss Palin's, Limbaugh's or.. grasswire Jul 2014 #96
He's Not A Likable Guy otohara Jun 2014 #64
so GG is just a comedian now... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #104
Isn't that the excuse the ditto heads use everytime Limbaugh jumps the shark? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2014 #196
+10000 Typical propaganda tactic. Deliberately trying to incite visceral emotion to override logic. woo me with science Jul 2014 #146
Why? It's the same outrage that is being directed at everyone who supports this pnwmom Jul 2014 #172
Exactly Andy823 Jul 2014 #193
In fairness he only is discussing whether corporations have religous rights dsc Jun 2014 #21
No...in fairness, he's pushing the idea that the religious rights of the owner class allow them to msanthrope Jun 2014 #24
I notice you didn't answer my examples dsc Jun 2014 #41
I didn't answer your examples because I didn't want to be rude and point out to you that msanthrope Jun 2014 #54
Any ruling or law that further transfers "human" rights to corporations is wrong. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #39
so the Congress could pass a law banning corporate owned newspapers from dsc Jun 2014 #40
Much as your "kosher" analogy is false these are too. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #42
If a jurisidiction passed a law banning kosher slaughtering dsc Jun 2014 #43
again your analogies are assuming the laws were passed to restrict religious freedom. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #45
there would be no court hearing under your theory that is my point dsc Jun 2014 #47
Of course there would be court hearings. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #58
I really don't know what else to say to you dsc Jun 2014 #59
You know, it's sad when a debater resorts to insults. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #60
Someone injecting imaginary facts into a debate about reality is where i try to jump off also. nolabels Jul 2014 #126
HHS already exempted non profits. joshcryer Jun 2014 #48
and how you never learned to read, I don't know dsc Jun 2014 #49
This isn't about the corporation, it's about the employees. joshcryer Jun 2014 #50
can you think of a single hypothetical case that would actually make it to court? bettyellen Jun 2014 #72
I'll help! OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #86
Paul Reikoff destroyed him on Maher's show the other day! Totally destroyed him! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #26
Greenwald loses one on one arguments all the time. BootinUp Jun 2014 #28
That's probably because he does not represent the "Liberal PoV." eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #29
Yes, there is that. BootinUp Jun 2014 #30
Absolutely... CherokeeDem Jun 2014 #31
Nothing against Reikoff (he has done excellent work for veterans) Dawson Leery Jul 2014 #111
Assholes can still do a lot of good. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #27
Grayson is an abrasive liberal, Greenwald is a libertarian geek tragedy Jun 2014 #32
What is a "borderline white nationalist xenophobe" NCTraveler Jun 2014 #33
He used the same tropes about how illegal immigration geek tragedy Jun 2014 #34
No no no... that was "before I had a major blog" ... so ... that GG racism doesn't count /sarcsm uponit7771 Jun 2014 #38
It must be a Libertarian thing. Chan790 Jul 2014 #80
BUT WAAAAAAAAAAAIT... he and Snowden repeated what Obama said just louder and with stolen docs uponit7771 Jun 2014 #35
All hail corporations! joshcryer Jun 2014 #44
but he is attending a socialist event and took a pic with a member of the socialist party JI7 Jun 2014 #52
Greenwald is a right winger Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #53
And there are those who insist otherwise. If Citizens United weren't enough, they defend even this. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #57
Snowden, though!!!1! NSA!!11! LOOK AT ME I'M SUCH A LIBERAL LOOK AT ME LOOK!!!1! LadyHawkAZ Jun 2014 #55
Such a liberal, except when it comes to women and minorities. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #56
just another self loathing Republican..... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2014 #106
OMG, you got me ROFLMAO here! You crack me up. freshwest Jul 2014 #91
Thank you, msanthrope. Cha Jun 2014 #62
The mere mention of Greenwald turns some here into adolescent idiots TriplD Jun 2014 #65
Agreed! nt elias49 Jun 2014 #70
It's Greenwald who acts like an "adolescent idiot". He's such a "petulant hater". Cha Jul 2014 #79
DU would be better again... Chan790 Jul 2014 #82
It's all very serious business, the smear. woo me with science Jul 2014 #144
+1, they're embarrassing, I agree. Marr Jul 2014 #150
I'm sure everyone who leftynyc Jul 2014 #184
What a giant turd he is alcibiades_mystery Jun 2014 #66
Fuck the smear machine. Seriously. woo me with science Jun 2014 #67
Also, notice how they're conspicuously absent from Octafish's TISA thread? Electric Monk Jun 2014 #69
+100000 Isn't that remarkable? woo me with science Jun 2014 #71
I wish you could take the science part out of your handle LOL snooper2 Jun 2014 #73
Could probably take out the bit about "wooing" too... Number23 Jun 2014 #74
This. nt Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #105
USA NSA USA NSA USA NSA n/t bobduca Jul 2014 #138
now on the other hand, your sig line you sport is perfect snooper2 Jul 2014 #139
yup just like your username bobduca Jul 2014 #140
Says I got paid $11.23 this last quarter to denounce your posts snooper2 Jul 2014 #148
Nah we both know i'm referring to your day job, not your hobby bobduca Jul 2014 #153
day job has been boring lately, just working on some PCI compliance issues snooper2 Jul 2014 #154
SOX compliance eh? bobduca Jul 2014 #155
We use a trusted third party and only get relatively small x number of warrants a year snooper2 Jul 2014 #156
You and me, we're network plumbers DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2014 #157
I think the NSA spends 90% of their time mining the public intertubes from all the slides- snooper2 Jul 2014 #158
They're not going to like this: the NSA review team says the NSA is doing a good job. randome Jul 2014 #160
Ah Mr Roffle Waffles, the mark of quality for any pro-nsa post! bobduca Jul 2014 #168
The OP is ardently against the spying machine. joshcryer Jun 2014 #76
War is Peace! woo me with science Jul 2014 #99
Lies are Truth! joshcryer Jul 2014 #121
I think you are correct, the OP seems rather shameless in the link you provided nolabels Jul 2014 #127
+1 woo me with science Jul 2014 #141
What's shameless about their comments there? joshcryer Jul 2014 #178
The exent of the post was to the OP's veracity nolabels Jul 2014 #182
Are we back to using "Stasi?" I've missed that! Again....I'm still waiting for.you msanthrope Jul 2014 #128
+1, wow-- hadn't seen that one. Marr Jul 2014 #152
Kindly cite a single post where I've 'defended' illegal actions by the NSA. I'll wait. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #98
I had a host tell me I must support spying because I never post in NSA threads! bettyellen Jul 2014 #100
I bet I can guess which Host it was... SidDithers Jul 2014 #102
LOL. I think I know that host Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #116
Yep Bobbie Jo Jul 2014 #120
Name drop, please. joshcryer Jul 2014 #125
It's against DU rules leftynyc Jul 2014 #185
Obviously, since I've never posted about my dislike of NAMBLA, I must be a member. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #107
that is the level of paranoia and hatred here. and it's fucking up DU. bettyellen Jul 2014 #108
That's basically the idiotic sentiment. joshcryer Jul 2014 #124
tell me about it- I got a why don't "you people" meaning feminists and POC post on Snowden/ GG bettyellen Jul 2014 #164
Worse is when it's some issue not covered by the media. joshcryer Jul 2014 #175
yeah, feminists get the why do people ignore or get mad when I post about women having X happen in Y bettyellen Jul 2014 #176
You have been on record overturning these laws. joshcryer Jul 2014 #122
So Greenwald is smearing himself Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #114
Machines don't smear people, personas do. bobduca Jul 2014 #136
+1 woo me with science Jul 2014 #142
+1, the only reason the usual crew cares about Greenwald's thoughts on this issue Marr Jul 2014 #151
+1 woo me with science Jul 2014 #163
You were not wrong... Tikki Jun 2014 #68
A question about what Greenwald ACTUALLY SAID (if we can stop flinging poo for a moment) Jim Lane Jun 2014 #75
This is an appeal to authority. joshcryer Jun 2014 #77
You set this out very clearly. Thanks. n/t pnwmom Jul 2014 #174
His observations are a mix of sophistry, lies, and presumption. OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #83
Yeah, it's obvious their dissent on RFRA is for flexibility. joshcryer Jul 2014 #92
Or... OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #94
KnR sheshe2 Jul 2014 #81
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #85
If it helps... OilemFirchen Jul 2014 #88
a good day for ignore reddread Jul 2014 #89
"unhinged" joshcryer Jul 2014 #93
Alert Swarming for the win! bobduca Jul 2014 #137
Well, that was ironic woo me with science Jul 2014 #143
Facts aren't smears. joshcryer Jul 2014 #169
You understate your point, but you are correct. Vattel Jul 2014 #110
+1 woo me with science Jul 2014 #147
That's expected. Libertarians are the architects of the coming Kochstitution, so they oppose Obama: freshwest Jul 2014 #95
No glen, Ginsburg is not correct. This ruling is specifically against women. In fact it says lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #101
DU rec for pissing off all the right people...nt SidDithers Jul 2014 #103
OMG, Greenwald didn't directly answer a tweeted question. He is so evil!!!!! Vattel Jul 2014 #109
Thank you for mansplaining to me why I shouldn't worry. nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #112
yw Vattel Jul 2014 #113
What does "yw" mean? msanthrope Jul 2014 #115
you're welcome Vattel Jul 2014 #117
Do I not rate full words? Capitals? Punctuation? nt msanthrope Jul 2014 #118
lol, IMHO prolly u do Vattel Jul 2014 #119
The OP's linked post doesn't link to where he linked the conservative reading. joshcryer Jul 2014 #123
The question he didn't directly answer was whether he agreed with the ruling. Vattel Jul 2014 #134
It doesn't matter whether he says he agrees. joshcryer Jul 2014 #171
The text makes no such distinction. The law applies to the free exercise of religion by persons. Vattel Jul 2014 #192
+10000 Any smear will do woo me with science Jul 2014 #145
I guess, but here is my puzzle. Vattel Jul 2014 #161
Well, woo me with science Jul 2014 #162
Some of it might be an organized attempt at disinformation and disruption, but Vattel Jul 2014 #165
Oh, I'm sure there's some of that, too. woo me with science Jul 2014 #166
You may be right. Be that as it may, the stupidity of most of the smears never ceases to amaze me. Vattel Jul 2014 #167
Bwah. Yeah, you're right. woo me with science Jul 2014 #177
Again we see his agenda isn't to do the right thing, it's to promote Libertarianism and... stevenleser Jul 2014 #129
But...but....but...! Snowden!!! MADem Jul 2014 #130
This thread has more fireworks in it than what Greenwald promised. randome Jul 2014 #133
HATE GREENWALD RAWR ARGLE BARGLE bobduca Jul 2014 #135
Okay! You're in! randome Jul 2014 #149
GREENWALD IS HIS OWN WORST FUCKING ENEMY. I can lock my caps, too. Cha Jul 2014 #181
you be nice now, as you can see I'm now a member of the kewl kids club bobduca Jul 2014 #186
Don't be paranoid.. I see no club. Cha Jul 2014 #188
Dang if it doesn't work for him flamingdem Jul 2014 #190
Ha, like the cult of GG gives a shit what he does.. he could go out and defend a misogynistic Cha Jul 2014 #191
How stupid of him to jump forums and speak! Now, WOMEN won't give a crap about Snowdon. TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #159
Uhmm...your link doesn't say what you claim. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #179
There is much about him that bothers me. nt arthritisR_US Jul 2014 #180
Greenwald continues to be the snotty, self serving, CEO fellating little prick he has always been. phleshdef Jul 2014 #183
that that... fellator!1111 bobduca Jul 2014 #187
Ugh flamingdem Jul 2014 #189
It's The S&G Show! Now in its second exciting season! randome Jul 2014 #197
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