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Response to msanthrope (Original post)

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 01:19 AM

179. Uhmm...your link doesn't say what you claim.

Direct copy and paste - None of the justices - even the liberal ones in the Citizens United dissent - disagree that corps have constitutional rights

How is this not true? All you have to do is show just one of them saying companies never have constitutional rights.

How isn't it logically necessary for such legal constructs to function at all? I think there is an argument to be had about having them at all because of perverse incentives to commit actions toxic to the communities and broader societies such constructs were originally designed to SERVE while to ones doing the dirt take the money and run but if they are going to be then yes they need at least limited and circumstantial rights.

DU needs 1st and 4th amendment rights. Unions need speech and assembly rights. Companies have to be able to make contracts as well. The press needs freedom of the press.

What we need to do is get some damn sense and really at least seriously look at charter history and law and define and limit which rights corporations have under what circumstances according to their primary mission.

Some rights like the 2nd and 5th perhaps should be completely banned for such constructs but I don't get the idea that corporations can never have any rights for any reason, it is silly and fewer are less friendly to such entities than myself but you can't skip out on logic.

Hell, to be honest I don't think Citizens United is some crazy interpretation of the Constitution, I totally see where the ACLU is coming from on the portion they support BUT it is absurdly poor judgment which is why put supposed to be thinking minds in such positions because in the current real life environment such law is dangerously toxic to our Republic and drowns out and negates the rights of people by the hundreds of millions. Law devoid of justice.

The ACLU is a watchdog, it is not their role to make a balance. They acted according to their function, the court did not because they must consider that balance and concern themselves with all of our rights.

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