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Lee-Lee

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6. Once you have crossed the threshold to use deadly force

Reply to ALBliberal (Original post)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:41 AM

Aug 2014

You fire as quickly as you can until you are certain the threat that made deadly force needed is stopped.

Period.

Under stress against a moving target you can't be certain if you hit and a person is still moving toward you or others because it wasn't a good enough hit, or if you missed, or if you got a stopping hit and it's just momentum so, yes, even if your first round hits multiple shots will be fired. 6 shots is about 2-3 seconds.

I am working to get access to a new range where I can do more classes, I would love to invite some of you down and put you in scenarios using simunitions so you can learn just how quickly these things can develop and how the real world isn't like a movie or video game.

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Why shoot to kill? or why shoot until good and dead? [View all] ALBliberal Aug 2014 OP

Brown was shot 6 times samsingh Aug 2014 #1

I think they shoot until the threat has stopped aikoaiko Aug 2014 #2

Baloney Demsrule86 Aug 2014 #20

Don't let your anger keep you from differentiating crimes from self-defense. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #23

I agree. Especially when that person isn't even holding a gun, like the knife wielder pnwmom Aug 2014 #3

Police generally follow the 21-foot rule with regard to knives NickB79 Aug 2014 #15

Except he wasn't charging. EVER. And when he COLLAPSED on the ground, they kept shooting. pnwmom Aug 2014 #16

They let him get within 5-6 feet, which was stupid for all parties involved NickB79 Aug 2014 #17

And they kept ordering him to drop his gun -- which he didn't have. pnwmom Aug 2014 #18

I think cops lose their minds. jambo101 Aug 2014 #4

I think it is to prove the victim of the shooting was a threat. Jappleseed Aug 2014 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #19

Once you have crossed the threshold to use deadly force Lee-Lee Aug 2014 #6

It's overkill... Punkingal Aug 2014 #8

You're not understanding the time frame involved Lurks Often Aug 2014 #9

After I saw that video from the UK though treestar Aug 2014 #10

It was clear Kijames was doing it just for suicide - but they have to shoot someone with a knife MillennialDem Aug 2014 #11

I keep hearing that, but then I see the video of the old man in pajamas in the street logosoco Aug 2014 #22

The 21 foot rule applies if both the knife and the gun are holstered and that's not what I said MillennialDem Aug 2014 #24

I am hoping that all cops who do this... Demsrule86 Aug 2014 #21

Hunters are taught not to leave a wounded prey. Downwinder Aug 2014 #7

the reason that shoot to kill is required TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #12

Dead men tell no tales Populist_Prole Aug 2014 #13

Because they are afraid. Iggo Aug 2014 #14