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etherealtruth

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8. "It is not, therefore, for me to define the phenomenon for those who have had such experience"

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:15 PM

Aug 2014

Thank you so much for your post.

I think it is very important for all of us to listen ... I can never know what an African American man feels ... but by listening to African American men ... I can empathize and I can understand that what they experience.Knowing it isn't for me to define. The same goes for many other groups ... I am never going to actually know what the LGBT community feels (via their experience) ... and I am not going to question their feelings and perceptions ... I accept that I cannot know ... I can empathize and offer support.

I truly appreciate seeing this applied the experience of women in America ... listening with an open mind is the only way we can learn how others experience reality.

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Rumination on misogyny. [View all] malthaussen Aug 2014 OP

one thing dsc Aug 2014 #1

Yes, that is the problem with an imperfect justice system. malthaussen Aug 2014 #2

false rape is between 2-3% per fbi and scotland yard, the same as other crimes. nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #3

I am not saying it is a high number of cases dsc Aug 2014 #5

I'll have to quibble there, dsc. malthaussen Aug 2014 #6

I apologize if my inference wasn't your implication. dsc Aug 2014 #9

the number is the same as in al crimes. so i expect to have a consideration in the same manner seabeyond Aug 2014 #7

It is dsc Aug 2014 #10

In any event, of course... malthaussen Aug 2014 #11

way to jump in and derail the conversation? mopinko Aug 2014 #19

sorry dsc Aug 2014 #25

i figured you had been here long enough mopinko Aug 2014 #26

there are places called safe spaces for a reason dsc Aug 2014 #28

except that is not what you are doing. mopinko Aug 2014 #31

You don't get to dictate terms of discussion here dsc Aug 2014 #35

Because some wimmins is assholes XemaSab Aug 2014 #21

An Excellent Illustration, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #4

Thank you, Sir. malthaussen Aug 2014 #12

"It is not, therefore, for me to define the phenomenon for those who have had such experience" etherealtruth Aug 2014 #8

Excellent post BainsBane Aug 2014 #13

point. we have many men that do. maybe that is in part hearing so loudly the men unable/unwilling.nt seabeyond Aug 2014 #14

That would seem to be the essence of empathy. malthaussen Aug 2014 #15

DURec leftstreet Aug 2014 #16

Thank you. malthaussen Aug 2014 #17

When the woman says the man raped her sulphurdunn Aug 2014 #18

Clearly, I don't think so. malthaussen Aug 2014 #20

What's legally relevant is not the person's own mind, but whether consent was expressed. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #24

Yes, I should have been clearer... malthaussen Aug 2014 #30

Sorry, I'm still not getting it. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #34

Consider, then, rather than "consent," "intent." malthaussen Aug 2014 #37

Are you speaking legally or personally? mythology Aug 2014 #22

Feelings, mythology, are subjective. malthaussen Aug 2014 #23

Very good post marym625 Aug 2014 #27

i think what is interesting with the OP, is the exploration. seabeyond Aug 2014 #29

Great OP. k&r. nt sufrommich Aug 2014 #32

does that same illustration work hfojvt Aug 2014 #33

Don't see why it shouldn't apply to misandry, hfojvt. malthaussen Aug 2014 #36

"you can be a misogynist and not be a bad person" hfojvt Aug 2014 #38