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Tuesday Afternoon

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74. OK, Thanks ... I had read that earlier and I am having questions about CS vs ToS
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 08:20 PM
Aug 2014
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If juries are to uphold CS and if the community is comprised of mostly MRAs and the women that support MRAs ethics/morals/standards then naturally juries will come back allowing those types of posts while hiding posts that debate the status quo.

Ergo, the same with POC and LGBTs.

I don't know why it is so hard to understand why the juries rule the way they do.

BUT, if juries are only to uphold CS and NOT ToS then it seems to be that something needs to be written into CS and then also, possibly the ToS so that Admin can have recourse if they so choose.

Am I misunderstanding or is that about the gist of it all?

Thanks.
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #1
I wonder why any progressive/liberal/democrat would be critical of feminism. boston bean Aug 2014 #3
It'd be sooooooo much easier if they'd all self-identify like that. Iggo Aug 2014 #12
"Feminism" is a term that encompasses a good bit of ground. hifiguy Aug 2014 #21
Of course... boston bean Aug 2014 #24
Thanks. hifiguy Aug 2014 #25
I don't know... You know it when you see it and when women are telling you it is present. boston bean Aug 2014 #27
And that is why it is hifiguy Sep 2014 #103
misogyny is not civil. LeftOfWest Sep 2014 #107
The essence of what you are saying hifiguy Sep 2014 #120
That makes sense. Being against equality is, after all, bigotry. arcane1 Aug 2014 #4
By definition, wouldn't those critical of feminism be mysoginists?? Hemmingway Aug 2014 #11
Blanketly critical of the entire movement/idea? Yes, of course. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #93
I would say those who are against feminism are misogynist. Iggo Sep 2014 #108
What do you criticize? treestar Aug 2014 #17
Ugh. What next, a user called "liberal white rights activist?" nt geek tragedy Aug 2014 #22
Liberal KKK /nt Sweet Freedom Aug 2014 #38
Why would anyone criticize feminism on here? What's wrong with gender equality? cui bono Aug 2014 #26
+1 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #94
Anything critical of feminism is mysoginistic. ncjustice80 Aug 2014 #58
I like the line at DU Warpy Aug 2014 #2
Warpy, DU should be welcoming to feminists vs misogynists. boston bean Aug 2014 #5
i totally agree with boston bean. sometimes i feel like I am in the GOP house of rep. trueblue2007 Aug 2014 #7
I DON'T FEEL VERY WELCOME HERE ANYMORE. me either. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #30
And you had no part in that? RiffRandell Aug 2014 #54
"Like I said before; I can't win." < This is a total victim type statement. = Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #61
LEAVE HER ALONE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 trueblue2007 Aug 2014 #75
Are you her babysitter? RiffRandell Aug 2014 #79
Wow. Do me a favor and never apologize to me. Iggo Sep 2014 #109
Well, hopefully I won't do anything that would warrant one. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #110
I CAN'T BELIEVE you just said that .... oldhippie Sep 2014 #111
Unfortunately, the larger culture even on the left is deeply misogynistic. Warpy Aug 2014 #68
Is this really a 'hard line'? It sounds like they aim to catch up with where DU has always been muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #6
Nice catch leftstreet Aug 2014 #9
That's not their final word on it. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #14
Surely you say that in jest - you can not call any woman those things here on DU - NEVER FreakinDJ Aug 2014 #20
Yes, that's my point; Fark is far behind DU, and is just implementing some basic ideas muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #23
Ok - who or what is Fark FreakinDJ Aug 2014 #35
Fark is the website the OP says DU should imitate, and to which I linked muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #36
DU standards Supersede Fark by "Light Years" FreakinDJ Aug 2014 #39
and why should you be able to?..The whole concept of a "slut" is based on a Double Standard whathehell Aug 2014 #71
Looks like they put the quietus on the fifty shades of grey topic - Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #32
Another word for the 'trash can'. Get feature here on DU, indeed. eom Purveyor Aug 2014 #8
It can't LittleBlue Aug 2014 #10
Juries aren't supposed to enforce the TOS. tammywammy Aug 2014 #29
You're right, they aren't. In reality I think they just vote how they feel LittleBlue Aug 2014 #43
I don't agree. I've served on over a hundred by now and I'm telling you that fellow jurors, ancianita Aug 2014 #60
+1 nt cwydro Aug 2014 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #13
Actually do something about it. boston bean Aug 2014 #15
Okay, this took me >5 mins. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #16
I like your revised policy. A lot. hifiguy Aug 2014 #18
That is a very good start. But the enforcement of it is key. boston bean Aug 2014 #31
I do think the comparison to LGBT issues on DU is instructive. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #40
We shall see. I am truly hoping for a change. nt boston bean Aug 2014 #42
This is actually pretty good. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #34
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #52
You don't get to dissent on whether women are people and deserving of equal rights. nt LeftyMom Aug 2014 #53
Not without being seen as a throwback at best, or a sociopath at worst. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #100
Hell, if someone doesn't support gay marriage on DU, they get the boot. boston bean Aug 2014 #56
I like this. I'm going to keep a copy for future reference. Thanks. ancianita Aug 2014 #66
This website used to have a great set of guidelines. Starry Messenger Aug 2014 #19
Why does this even have to be discussed? cui bono Aug 2014 #28
How does DU take a 'hard line' on racism? Homophobia? leftstreet Aug 2014 #33
Gender bigotry is already part of the TOS. tammywammy Aug 2014 #37
Every single feminist group on DU banded together and asked Skinner boston bean Aug 2014 #45
Anyone who ever reads ATA knows that Skinner is never going to go back to a DU2-style system, Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #41
Tangential question about DU economics Jim Lane Sep 2014 #113
We don't have a big problem identifying homophobic or racist comments frazzled Aug 2014 #44
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #46
I host HoF, and most of the participants in the threads in GD boston bean Aug 2014 #47
Everything seems to be misogyny to regulars of HOF davidn3600 Aug 2014 #57
You know what? I've made several of those statements. Nobody's ever accused me of misogyny. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #62
LOL boston bean Aug 2014 #63
Well put! "...evils of straw feminism" indeed! ancianita Aug 2014 #69
Straw Feminist -- I know what my Halloween costume is going to be this year! betsuni Sep 2014 #97
I haven't been accused of misogyny for the last one, but was accused of defending pedophiles... Violet_Crumble Sep 2014 #106
very well put, LM hlthe2b Sep 2014 #121
The tone of the disagreement is a hifiguy Sep 2014 #101
fail G_j Aug 2014 #64
"a hatred of women" according to Merriam-Webster's dictionary davidn3600 Aug 2014 #72
Any link posted is going to be alerted as a call-out. He pulls this stunt a lot. nt LeftyMom Aug 2014 #73
Then send it as a PM davidn3600 Aug 2014 #78
Is your "my posts" broken? LeftyMom Aug 2014 #80
Again, you refuse to answer a legitimate question... davidn3600 Aug 2014 #81
Let me guide you theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #115
"I haven't see any of that here." Ah yes, the "I don't see it, therefore it must not exist" fallacy YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #104
Are you saying that there is NEVER any legitimate disagreement over whether something is misogyny? Jim Lane Sep 2014 #114
They still post photographs with women in them on fark The Straight Story Aug 2014 #48
You have truly been victimized. I feel so sorry for you. boston bean Aug 2014 #49
So you would say that the follow thread and comments there would be just fine here? The Straight Story Aug 2014 #50
I was responding to the pain you were expressing within the parenthesis of your prior post. boston bean Aug 2014 #51
Meh. I have posted all over the net for over decade. Only place ever called misogynist was here The Straight Story Aug 2014 #59
Wait, didn't you previously post on FR? LeftyMom Aug 2014 #77
Total red herring, dude. nt alp227 Aug 2014 #91
that is funny stuff there Doctor_J Aug 2014 #92
Does someone have a copy and paste of Juror's instructions? Thanks. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #55
Try this. It's more about the jury system; from that you can probably infer specific instructions. ancianita Aug 2014 #70
OK, Thanks ... I had read that earlier and I am having questions about CS vs ToS Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #74
Sounds fair to me. I take much of CS as a guideline range of good faith, productive posting. Even ancianita Aug 2014 #83
I agree with a lot of what you say. However, like the Host's guidelines needed a bit of tweaking Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #86
... ancianita Aug 2014 #87
! Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #88
You'd think that our CS would incorporate by reference the TOS Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #116
Yes, that is what is happening, imo. And Yes, I think both CS and ToS need to change some wording Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #118
first by DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #67
Dumping the god-awful jury system that makes geek tragedy Aug 2014 #76
Should racist, sexist, homophobic slurs get that far? leftstreet Aug 2014 #82
The jury system is fine. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #84
Privileging civil bigotry over blunt responses to that bigotry seems geek tragedy Aug 2014 #89
In a poll, 38 DUers disagreed with the statement that it is never OK to use the c-word Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #85
Is there more than one C word? lonestarnot Aug 2014 #90
In the U.K. or Australia the word is used much differently than in the U.S. mythology Sep 2014 #95
Why doesn't DU take a hard line against anything based in ego? flvegan Sep 2014 #96
See reply #1. That's what it looks like. LadyHawkAZ Sep 2014 #98
All they have to do is take a hard line on whats already in place. Unfortunately they don't. William769 Sep 2014 #99
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #102
I think someone should do something about the rape threat a DUer got tonight Wella Sep 2014 #105
I dislike what I perceive as a double standard in terms of DU rules. Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #112
Exactly. It's in the ToS, not always enforced, PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #117
agreed La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #122
DU takes very few hard lines. LWolf Sep 2014 #119
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