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hunter

(38,300 posts)
8. Humans behave according to their instincts too.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:38 PM
Oct 2014

The big difference between us and chimps is we tell very intricate stories about what we do. When we created oral history, stories passed down from generation to generation, maybe 50-100,000 years ago, human civilization began to evolve rapidly. And then, when we created writing, that's when the modern technological revolutions began. There's simply too much human history and technology now to hold it all inside the heads of our bards.

I don't know why we feel "alone" and wonder about intelligent life in outer space when we share this planet with a large variety of very intelligent beings similar to ourselves. A shocking majority haven't recognized these intelligent beings yet.

I think it's time we did.

Some animals are not so different than we were not long ago by nature's long measure of time, and it's not so clear yet that the developmental pathway we followed will assure a positive outcome. I suspect the human race will be remembered only as a freakish layer of trash in the geologic record.

For now we ought to be protecting the cultures of our intellectual kin on this planet, the great apes, the cetaceans, the elephants, many of the birds, etc., in much more sophisticated ways than we "humanely" treat other animals of lesser intellectual and cultural complexity.

A chimpanzee deserves to live as a chimpanzee, with many of the same rights of self-determination as we demand for our own selves. And an orca deserves to live as an orca, and an elephant as an elephant.





I vote they are people. bravenak Oct 2014 #1
Oh, you "feel" that way, do you? Yes, that's how to define species, by "feelings." WinkyDink Oct 2014 #16
Yes. I'm a feeler. One day i decided that they were people, and that will be the end of it! bravenak Oct 2014 #18
Am I wrong in saying that what you really want is for them to be protected? Marrah_G Oct 2014 #21
No, your right. bravenak Oct 2014 #22
I agree Marrah_G Oct 2014 #24
I can come up with a term or two. bravenak Oct 2014 #25
It's really messed up Marrah_G Oct 2014 #26
This same lawyer said he'll move onto dolphins next... Oktober Oct 2014 #37
I disagree meow2u3 Oct 2014 #2
Humans behave according to their instincts too. hunter Oct 2014 #8
Can't help but agree with you. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #9
well said Beringia Oct 2014 #13
They should be protected. rogerashton Oct 2014 #3
Does Tommy change the channel on the TV? Kalidurga Oct 2014 #4
I'm all for treating animals decently, but chimps equal to persons? I don't think so. I'm sorry. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #5
I'm still cheering for team humanity, but I'm not sure we'll make it to the Galactic Superbowl. hunter Oct 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #17
LOL. "Chimps, Inc.", anyone? xD AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #19
Well, Joe..the SAME Supreme Court ruled corporations are persons dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #29
When they turn 16 can they drive, vote at 18, buy a gun at 21? NightWatcher Oct 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #7
Is This A George W. Bush Thing ??? WillyT Oct 2014 #10
Good question. Is Chimpy McFlightsuit human? Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #28
This is the future, good treatment of all animals Beringia Oct 2014 #12
but when certain UglyGreed Oct 2014 #14
"Yes" would be a very, very bad decision. One can legislate not to harm chimpanzees proper. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #15
They are not people, they are chimps Marrah_G Oct 2014 #20
Chimps are not people. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #23
If being a person means you have to be "autonomous, self-aware, self-determining, and able to choose valerief Oct 2014 #27
oops..I commented much the same, up above, dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #30
In their world, I wonder if embryos outrank fetuses and if zygotes outrank embryos. valerief Oct 2014 #35
all outranked by the "gleam in the father's eye". dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #36
Badda bing! valerief Oct 2014 #38
In other news, much of DU didn't read what this is actually about, responded in kind. flvegan Oct 2014 #31
Ain't that always the way??? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #34
My cat has already made yuiyoshida Oct 2014 #32
So if it's decided the owner will have to give him up ? it sounds like that scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #33
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