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Savannahmann

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21. Let me ask you this.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:17 PM
Oct 2014

If I may. Just to make sure I have the story straight. A fight ensued in the car, and the weapon discharged. Supposedly blood in the car proves this. Fine. I've never really disputed that, but whatever. Then Michael Brown ran. This I can totally understand, because it is normal fight/flight response. It's totally human, and I would believe that anyone could or would do exactly the same thing. I could even believe that someone stayed and continued to fight through the window, attempting to win or whatever.

But here is where I have a problem. The idea that he ran away, and then after Darren Wilson fired again, turned and charged to attack. That makes no sense. No sense what so freaking ever. It makes far more sense that Michael Brown was surrendering, turning to surrender in other words. The shots in the face/head. I find it easier to believe that happened while he was going down after getting shot elsewhere, than I do with the idea that he was lowering his head to try and tackle Darren Wilson.

I just don't believe that anyone who intended to attack the cop would run away, and then turn and run back towards. Why surrender all the advantage you had by running away? In that scenario, Michael had his hands on the cop. He was in close physical proximity. Then he threw the advantage away, by opening up the distance in an effort to escape. Then knowing that the cop has already shot him, and knowing that he will shoot again, turn and attack?

I can even believe that Michael was leaning that way, as his body weight shifted to allow him to come to a stop. But to come to a stop, reverse, and then charge? Nope, I've searched the dictionary, and I can't find a word to properly describe how unlikely that is.

Absent the presence of some seriously mind altering drugs, or a history of serious mental health issues, I'm not buying it. I'm just not. Nobody with a modicum of sense, with any experience with violence does that. In the modern world, I consider it very unlikely that Michael would grow to graduate high school anywhere near St. Louis and never had been in a fight or exposed to any violence.

Perhaps you have a different take, or perhaps there is some history of mental illness that I've never heard of. Because frankly, you get more rational behavior out of people who have been hit in the head with a shovel than we're expected to believe Michael Brown displayed.

I would have a hard time believing that this scenario is the one that played out. I would have more than enough reasonable doubt to reject it, wouldn't you?

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That doesn't really sound like an autopsy report TransitJohn Oct 2014 #1
They are both there. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #2
How was I supposed to know that? TransitJohn Oct 2014 #3
Click the link? n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #4
Of course you would say that. TransitJohn Oct 2014 #5
Gee, John, no need to be so irritable. Nitram Oct 2014 #6
God forbid! TransitJohn Oct 2014 #7
It's not really either... Oktober Oct 2014 #9
Since people seem to be click challenged today . . . Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #13
Click challenged doesn't really mean... Oktober Oct 2014 #20
Is clicking, skimming, and then clicking to the underlying material really that challenging? n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #43
Just like the cops wanted it to, the narrative plays out exactly the way Wilson said. Rex Oct 2014 #8
so the medical examiners and FBI are in on it? snooper2 Oct 2014 #11
Why would they have to be in on it? Rex Oct 2014 #12
Well, I actually read the entire report, no gunshot wounds in the back- snooper2 Oct 2014 #14
The report kept saying homicide, I guess that is why Wilson fled like a coward. Rex Oct 2014 #15
I noticed that but figured it was just how medical examiners write to be accurate snooper2 Oct 2014 #18
Maybe. Rex Oct 2014 #19
If he fled within the boundaries of law... Oktober Oct 2014 #22
So you don't know what he did right after killing Brown? Rex Oct 2014 #41
Aside from anything pertaining to law... Oktober Oct 2014 #42
Fled? What did I miss? Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #25
You're deliberately misstating what Dorian Johnson actually said, so much so that it KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #31
It's sad watching people pretend to be ignorant of the circumstances. Rex Oct 2014 #40
Let me ask you this. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #21
I would suggest... Oktober Oct 2014 #23
I find it nearly impossible to believe that Michael Brown turned and charged. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #44
You are projecting... Oktober Oct 2014 #45
I am analyzing. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #46
You have a... unique... interpretation of the word analyze... Oktober Oct 2014 #47
Then tell me where I'm wrong. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #48
When adrenaline is pumping people make choices that seem illogical Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #24
My first experience was in 1988 Savannahmann Oct 2014 #32
Where this falls apart for me (as an outsider looking in) justiceischeap Oct 2014 #34
who is leaking this shit? spanone Oct 2014 #10
Ferguson PD. Rex Oct 2014 #16
The Ferguson PD, St Louis County PD and Prosecutor are all acting on behalf of Darren Wilson alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #17
If it weren't for those pesky eye-witnesses ... AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #26
But we all know that in this country, the majority of the time, the po-po is right. nc4bo Oct 2014 #27
I hope the Justice Dept is breathing down their necks. AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #33
three shots to the head of an unarmed person.... murder. spanone Oct 2014 #28
In some cases... certainly... Oktober Oct 2014 #29
in this case. murder. spanone Oct 2014 #35
None of that sounds like an autopsy Recursion Oct 2014 #30
a lot of people in this thread are having clicky link issues LOL snooper2 Oct 2014 #36
I did click, and got a series of tweets from... somebody? Recursion Oct 2014 #37
See post 13 up above snooper2 Oct 2014 #38
Umm... that's an autopsy that more or less confirms Wilson's story Recursion Oct 2014 #39
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